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    Telling it like it is! Stewart_Reptiles's Avatar
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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonG View Post
    I dont understand why the pics were removed by Dr.Del.... Photobucket is a tool used to post pics on the web. If you wanted them to not be displayed to the public then you could limit their access via photobucket.

    Those pictures were not on a "pivate" photobucket account. They werent hotlinked off of a private server. If they were on a private server I wouldnt of linked to them.

    I think those pics need to be posted back up.

    You do not understand and it is very regretable since it was explained to you a few times already via PM.

    I will make it clear here

    Let’s resume the situation here

    You saw this post http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...&postcount=142 decided to go on that forum copied the links and came back here to post the pics here without proper credit which is in violation of our TOS.

    We do not allow pictures belonging to someone else to be posted without proper credits

    13. Respect bandwidth, copyrights, and ownership. Do not "hot-link" images from other websites or post copyrighted material without the express, written permission of the owner.
    You posted pictures that

    A# Did not belong to you

    B# Were hotlinked from a Photobucket account that does not belong to you either, account of a former member that is indeed private (I check myself )

    Finally when it comes to copyright

    The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work.

    In other words at the moment the picture is taken it becomes copyrighted material.

    In no way do you need to place a copyright mark on a picture for this picture to be copyrighted material.

    Because a picture is posted online on a website or a photoserver in no way does this mean that you are allowed to use it, or reproduced without express written permission of the owner.

    Now for future reference I would highly recommend you to make yourself familiar with our TOS http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/a...t.php?f=89&a=9 to avoid further problem.

    Have a good night!
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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Do we know that his is how they will all look?

    Sounds like people are assuming they will all be high white. Considering the variability in pieds and the white distribution... never know, the next one could be black with a patch of white...

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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Thanks Deborah for clearing that up.
    I hope the combo will have some that are not so high white too. Maybe the super cinny/pied will be less high white(hey, I can hope!)
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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    ehhhh.... still doesn't beat the origional.... (pied that is)
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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    You do not understand and it is very regretable since it was explained to you a few times already via PM.

    I will make it clear here

    Let’s resume the situation here

    You saw this post http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...&postcount=142 decided to go on that forum copied the links and came back here to post the pics here without proper credit which is in violation of our TOS.

    We do not allow pictures belonging to someone else to be posted without proper credits



    You posted pictures that

    A# Did not belong to you

    B# Were hotlinked from a Photobucket account that does not belong to you either, account of a former member that is indeed private (I check myself )

    Finally when it comes to copyright

    The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work.

    In other words at the moment the picture is taken it becomes copyrighted material.

    In no way do you need to place a copyright mark on a picture for this picture to be copyrighted material.

    Because a picture is posted online on a website or a photoserver in no way does this mean that you are allowed to use it, or reproduced without express written permission of the owner.

    Now for future reference I would highly recommend you to make yourself familiar with our TOS http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/a...t.php?f=89&a=9 to avoid further problem.

    Have a good night!

    First off I saw the post with the pictures on reptile radio. Not here.

    Second like I told Dr Del.... Did the person who took the pictures get written consent from the owner of the animal (Ian G.) to take said pictures and post them on the internet?

    I highly doubt it. Which makes him in violation of even your rules.

    Third, like I pointed out to Dr Del, instead of removing the pictures... We could of given the person holding the PUBLIC server account on photobucket with the pictures the proper credit and still left the pictures up for everyones benefit.

    Bp net members would of benefitted in the long run. Instead they were removed and bpnet members lost.

    I am done going in circles with this... If you guys want to bite your nose off to spite your face so be it...

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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    I have a feeling most if not all of these will be high white since the head is white.

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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonG View Post
    First off I saw the post with the pictures on reptile radio. Not here.

    Second like I told Dr Del.... Did the person who took the pictures get written consent from the owner of the animal (Ian G.) to take said pictures and post them on the internet?

    I highly doubt it. Which makes him in violation of even your rules.

    Third, like I pointed out to Dr Del, instead of removing the pictures... We could of given the person holding the PUBLIC server account on photobucket with the pictures the proper credit and still left the pictures up for everyones benefit.

    Bp net members would of benefitted in the long run. Instead they were removed and bpnet members lost.

    I am done going in circles with this... If you guys want to bite your nose off to spite your face so be it...
    The question is not what someone else has done somewhere else but what YOU have done HERE, and what YOU have done HERE by posting pictures without proper credits.

    It violates our TERMS and it is that simple. Those are the terms that you agreed on when you first joined and it is YOUR responsibility to abide by them just like any other members of this forum including myself.
    Deborah Stewart


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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Jason,

    If you had even bothered to open the link Deb provided you would have seen this;

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    Pictures are up on reptileradio.net
    The rest of your post makes no sense for reasons I will explain for the last time.

    The person on photobucket did not own the rights to the pictures - as you have been told time and time again.

    Bp.net members lost precisely nothing.

    The pics are available for those who are willing to join the site the owner of the photographs chose to post them on - and have been since before the ones in your post were removed.

    Now drop it.


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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    The question is not what someone else has done somewhere else but what YOU have done HERE, and what YOU have done HERE by posting pictures without proper credits.

    It violates our TERMS and it is that simple. Those are the terms that you agreed on when you first joined and it is YOUR responsibility to abide by them just like any other members of this forum including myself.
    I never denied that I violated the terms. I never ment too. What I ment to do was share with bpnet the cool pics.

    Dr. Del jumped the gun and removed the pics imho. We could of ammended the post and gave credit and bpnet members could of saw the pics.

    But they didnt. That is MY POINT.

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    Re: Finally!!! The super black pastel pied pics!!!!!!

    Did the person who took the pictures get written consent from the owner of the animal (Ian G.) to take said pictures and post them on the internet?
    If I paint a painting I own the copyright to that image... someone takes a photo of it.. they own the copyright to that image not me... I paint a painting of that photo... then I own the copyright...

    Snake... painting... photo... it is all the same.

    Just an FYI.

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