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Re: Misrepresenting animals
I've known Ben somewhat since he first started posting on Bob Clarks forum years ago. I've talked with him numerous times on the various forums, and via the phone, and KNOW he has put some premium money into his animals, including his new building/facility. Him and Cady have been good friends of mine for a while...I don't see him ripping off anyone, misrepresenting his animals, nor trying to scam any person in any way...The pictures look a little warm due to the white balance being off. Incandescent bulbs cause that yellow wash, along with incorrect exposure and white balance (as said before). I see no real photoshopping/chopping being done here... If you'd like to talk to Ben about it, or feel some concern, shoot him a PM, or a call. He will reply to you, and let you know the full deal. Bens a great guy, with his hands in some seriously killer projects in the hobby, and a lot of dedication and time towards it...cut the guy some slack.
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
Ok I was once told to not beat a dead horse on this site and I got in trouble fr doing this exact thing. SO STOP IT. He realizes his mistake. All of you can just come off it. I find it kinda rude that everyone is still beating him up. Good lord people he made a mistake and you are all going for his throat. He knows better now and I'm sure he will do more research next time but for now everyone could kindly back off. We all see that Ben is a good guy but how was he to know. He thought that he was doing us all a favor so he has good intentions and everyone needs to realize that. I am kinda appalled by some peoples reactions. There is no reason to be so rude over a mistake.
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
 Originally Posted by yeahyeah
I was not saying he was not a stand up guy.
instead you just said
I am sick of seeing people misrepresenting their animals and selling them to people. Photos of snakes that you just know are not what they look like in real life. Here's an excellent example.
I guess you meant that as a compliment 
Again the picture is not good enough for you, contact the breeder ask for more, however not need to make such a claim as someone misrepresenting their animals.
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
I don't see anything wrong.... I thought it was a gorgeous animal!!
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
 Originally Posted by Tosha_Mc
There are a lot of people that use filters and other image enhancing software to clean up their pictures. IMO one shouldn't do anything other than crop your pictures but seems like more and more people are touching up as well. As a buyer be informed what you are looking for and looking at and you'll be fine -- don't hesitate to ask the seller for a natural sunlight picture if it makes you feel better.
BTW - I'm not saying there is any enhancement on the photos presented but just offering up a perspective.
yeah, just pick up a playboy and see for yourself.
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
Ive never seen something bad written about Ben or his animals. Maybe next time instead of trying to humiliate someone publicly you should just make a post saying something to the fact of "hey is this for real" or "has anyone dealt with this person before" or how about asking for some general feedback.
I understand there are many out there trying to cheat you out of your dollar and of course you should be on gaurd. But there comes a point when playing snake police where you "could" really hurt a "Good Guys" reputation by your assumptions/opinions.
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
 Originally Posted by RoyalGuardian
Ok I was once told to not beat a dead horse on this site and I got in trouble fr doing this exact thing. SO STOP IT. He realizes his mistake. All of you can just come off it. I find it kinda rude that everyone is still beating him up. Good lord people he made a mistake and you are all going for his throat. He knows better now and I'm sure he will do more research next time but for now everyone could kindly back off. We all see that Ben is a good guy but how was he to know. He thought that he was doing us all a favor so he has good intentions and everyone needs to realize that. I am kinda appalled by some peoples reactions. There is no reason to be so rude over a mistake. 
I'm not sure you read his second post in this thread.
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
Well, as much as I don't like bumping this post, I figure I'd go ahead and thank everyone for the compliments! I really do appreciate it. As some said, I would be more than happy to take more photos of the animals without a problem at all.
As far as the photo goes, whenever I moved, my facility has a yellow toned tile which seems to give all of my photos a tone of yellow as well (although some Fires do have some nice oranges and yellows either way), I've been trying to fix it, but I'm no photographer... Which is why I always tell people I'm more than happy to take more photos of the animal. I am in no way trying to misrepresent any animal I produce or sell. I always want my customers to be more than happy with their purchase, period! 
Thanks again everyone!
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Re: Misrepresenting animals
 Originally Posted by Ben_Renick
Well, as much as I don't like bumping this post, I figure I'd go ahead and thank everyone for the compliments! I really do appreciate it. As some said, I would be more than happy to take more photos of the animals without a problem at all.
As far as the photo goes, whenever I moved, my facility has a yellow toned tile which seems to give all of my photos a tone of yellow as well (although some Fires do have some nice oranges and yellows either way), I've been trying to fix it, but I'm no photographer...  Which is why I always tell people I'm more than happy to take more photos of the animal. I am in no way trying to misrepresent any animal I produce or sell. I always want my customers to be more than happy with their purchase, period!
Thanks again everyone!
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