super pastel to a axanthic

[scotty99]

I know you can breed a pastel to an Axanthic, but can you breed a super pastel to an axanthic?

Have googled it but has given me a headache reading through it all, and still havent found the answer!

I'm looking towards breeding and thinking of getting a male super. I was going to go down the spider route as i love them, but the head wobble rumours( and worse) has got me worried, how bad a problem is it? does the wobble come into play in the spider morphs combos like bee's and spinners etc? Does it affect people purchasing spider based morphs

cheers Scott

[daniel1983]

Why couldn't you breed a super pastel to an axanthic? It is just a genetic trait....a ball python can breed another ball python.

If you breed a super pastel to an axanthic you would get all pastels 100% het. axanthic.
If you breed a pastel to an axantic you will get 100% het axanthics or pastel 100% het axantics.

[Purrrfect9]

I know you can breed a pastel to an Axanthic, but can you breed a super pastel to an axanthic?

Have googled it but has given me a headache reading through it all, and still havent found the answer!

I'm looking towards breeding and thinking of getting a male super. I was going to go down the spider route as i love them, but the head wobble rumours( and worse) has got me worried, how bad a problem is it? does the wobble come into play in the spider morphs combos like bee's and spinners etc? Does it affect people purchasing spider based morphs

cheers Scott

Yes, you can breed a super pastel to an axanthic, but all of your offspring would be pastels het axanthic.
And I wouldn't worry too much about the head wobble from spiders. The "wobble" carries on into all spider crosses, but the majority of the time if you don't know what to look for, then you really wont even notice. Some spiders display the wobble severely, and others you wont be able to tell. As far as genetics of it goes, it's hit or miss. You can have a perfectly normal acting spider, and they may throw offspring that wobble a bit. You can have a spider that wobbles a lot, and throw offspring that show no sign of it. Unless it's severe, it really doesn't impare them physically what so ever. Spiders can still eat, drink, and behave just like any other ball python, just with a small quirk to them. Some people call it an added personality. I personally own a spider, and when she was only a few months old, she had a slight wobble when she was excited or about to eat. That very well may have been juvenile behavior, because at a year old she no longer displays that behavior. She has also been the youngest BP that I have ever purchased at 3 months old, where everyone else has been at least 6 months old.

[scotty99]

Thanks very much for the replies!!

Cheers for the info on spiders Purrrfect, I must admit i like the spider morph. There was a proven male in my local herp shop a while back, i liked his outgoing nature, he looked a cracker of a snake. At the time i had not considered getting another ball, but he was sold fairly quickly anyway.

Well i have an idea what i want to do now. I know a breeder who has bumblebees and super pastel males. I'm leaning to a bumblebee at the moment. I am ringing him tomorrow, all quite exciting as i got into balls by accident (snake sitting = owner not come back!!) but im getting quite into the whole thing

My idea is to start small and pair the male bumble off to 2 norm females late next year , or if i come across a female co-dom like a pastel/pinstripe/spider ..all the better.....bad idea???... then introduce an axanthic somewhere down the line..........it will all go horribly wrong no doubt, but it will be fun!

just wish i got into it a few years ago