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    Re: boas and ibd

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Be very careful on what you recommend.

    Theories on transmission include that it may be airborne.
    Who's theory is this? Every vet I've talked to say that IBD is strictly contagious to fluids passing to and fro other snakes. Which means- Mites, feces, or sex.

    Regarding playing Russian roulette with your collection - per the Merck Veterinary Manual:

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post

    Boa constrictors and several species of pythons are most commonly affected by IBD. Boas are considered to be the normal host for this retrovirus because so many (up to 50% of those tested) are infected and they can harbor the virus for years without symptoms
    Considered is the keyword there. It's also been considered that IBD originated from Green Burms too. That it was passed to and fro with Boas being housed with Burms back in the day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    50% of those tested?
    I'm guessing the only reason a test is done is because something is wrong, right? I'm not going to sacrifice a completely healthy snake to be tested. Would you? Thus, 100% of those tested had problems to begin with, showing signs of IBD before death.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Recommending a quarantine period on a disease that many never manifest any symptoms (in the case of boas) is pointless. While the animal is quietly carrying the disease without any outward signs, it can be infecting other animals.
    Only adult boas are known to carry IBD for long periods of time. Baby Boas will die as quickly as Ball Pythons (or other snakes) when introduced to it. This is the main way people learn they have it in their collection. Their baby boas die off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Several respected people in this hobby have obtained animals from reliable sources, practice immaculate husbandry routines and have still lost large parts of their collections.

    Most people have gotten incorrect information about IBD from unreliable or inaccurate sources. I would suggest that anyone interested in what is currently known about the disease research Dr. Jacobson's work at UF.
    Can you name any? I know of 2 people who've had IBD in their collection right off hand. One of those is heresay, the other (BWSmith) was very public about his problems and still has a few babies he had during this whole dilemma and is most probably the most educated person about this topic I know. He had live biopsies done on his whole collection and had to put down the majority of that collection. He still has a few remaining boas that were at his house during his breakout.
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