Thanks. I just wish I had a son like her to breed back. I see a fair number of ch like the original poster's that look interesting and tried to get one but didn't work it out in time. Now I'm thinking I'm just going to throw a pastel, spider, and mojave at her this year and see what comes out. She's been eating some pretty big retired breeder rats but still isn't really back to fat yet after 14 eggs last year.