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    New members/sellers talking cheap

    What's with the new members signing up and posting ads claimng "cheap" or "save $" when the prices ar more expensive than your average reputable breeder, or when it's a product, no cheaper than doing a google search? Do they think that the people on here are as slow as they are? I get upset at adds from new members, but these posts really grab my attention as being posted by craps.

    CHEAP! 2008 pastel male - $175 +shipping
    SAVE! $30 scale you can get for $13 on ebay - $30
    Etc.
    Who do they think we are here?
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    This is a little unrelated, but kind of in the same vein. So I'm looking for mojo's on KS and they're all going for $300-400, average price. Then there's this one add that has them for $800 a piece. How can the seller expect to sell for twice the going rate? Are they that clueless?

    Potential buyer: "Hhhmmmm, these are for sale at twice what others are selling them for, they must be twice as good!!! I'll take two please!" Give me a break

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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    Quote Originally Posted by simplechamp View Post
    This is a little unrelated, but kind of in the same vein. So I'm looking for mojo's on KS and they're all going for $300-400, average price. Then there's this one add that has them for $800 a piece. How can the seller expect to sell for twice the going rate? Are they that clueless?

    Potential buyer: "Hhhmmmm, these are for sale at twice what others are selling them for, they must be twice as good!!! I'll take two please!" Give me a break
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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    Quote Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    What's with the new members signing up and posting ads claimng "cheap" or "save $" when the prices ar more expensive than your average reputable breeder, or when it's a product, no cheaper than doing a google search? Do they think that the people on here are as slow as they are? I get upset at adds from new members, but these posts really grab my attention as being posted by craps.

    CHEAP! 2008 pastel male - $175 +shipping
    SAVE! $30 scale you can get for $13 on ebay - $30
    Etc.
    Who do they think we are here?
    Everyone knows how I feel about brand new members selling... Do yourself a favor and simply ignore any post in the for sale section written by a new bee. Hopefully some day the admin will address this problem.



    Quote Originally Posted by simplechamp View Post
    This is a little unrelated, but kind of in the same vein. So I'm looking for mojo's on KS and they're all going for $300-400, average price. Then there's this one add that has them for $800 a piece. How can the seller expect to sell for twice the going rate? Are they that clueless?
    The seller may not be the one that is "clueless" here... The price is determined by the quality of the snake and what a buyer is willing to pay for it. There is a big difference between a crappy morph and a high quality morph.
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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    Quote Originally Posted by simplechamp View Post
    This is a little unrelated, but kind of in the same vein. So I'm looking for mojo's on KS and they're all going for $300-400, average price. Then there's this one add that has them for $800 a piece. How can the seller expect to sell for twice the going rate? Are they that clueless?

    Potential buyer: "Hhhmmmm, these are for sale at twice what others are selling them for, they must be twice as good!!! I'll take two please!" Give me a break
    You get what you pay for most of the time. People lump all snakes of the same morph in together like they are all the same. There could be a difference in quality that makes it worth it. When I bought my new Pastel male I had a choice between a browned out one and a super hot one. I chose the super hot one and paid about twice as much.
    Just saying not all mojos are created equal
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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    Well, I hope no one buys from these new people. Not just because they are new and apparently think we are stupid, but because we do not know who the heck they are! I check references like crazy when getting a new snake, and the references references if I think it is appropriate. I'm not about the get scammed over thinking a " Cheap het pastel male for only $500!" is a good deal, but also because ( other than the obvious in the example) its a easy way to get !@#$ over. Id only do it if they made a normal post and checked out, but if they are new they should at least wait until the forum gets to know them better.
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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    Maybe some attempt at some sort of psychology: "Geeze, he says its cheap, must be a good price then"; hoping that someone may not know the market value and assume its a good deal? I don't know, silly either way.

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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    While I personally believe that people should be able to advertise an animal at whatever price they feel that animal is worth, the idea of using the word "cheap" in an advertisement for a living creature makes me sad.

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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki View Post
    While I personally believe that people should be able to advertise an animal at whatever price they feel that animal is worth, the idea of using the word "cheap" in an advertisement for a living creature makes me sad.

    -adam
    I agree. Some of the ads I have seen appear more to be selling used cars than living, breathing creatures. 'Weekend Sale', 'Til Midnight Only', 'Cheapest on This or That Forum'. What about 'Healthy', 'Selectively Bred', 'Established Eaters'? These are the descriptions I want to see.

    I sure hope these are just growing pains that the BP breeding world is experiencing, and that these snake peddlers will realize that reputation goes a long way in this business.
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    Re: New members/sellers talking cheap

    When snakes are advertised as "half-off", exactly which half are you getting?

    I really don't see the point in trying to limit new members from posting ads. Probably because I personnally will only purchase from established, well-known breeders. The reasons are obvious, sure the animals may be a bit pricier, but there's a much better chance that they're healthy, and almost zero chance of getting scammed. There's too much on the line for a true blooded breeder to risk in scamming someone. Everyone else though, is going to get met with a very skeptical eye, just because there's a reason their snakes are less expensive than a breeders counter-part. I understand there's people that REALLY want a morph, but can't quite muster the $$$ for a breeder's jewel, but that then means with the money you save, you should atleast make it up with effort researching the person your dealing with. There's enough of these people selling "cheap" morphs, that your likely to find some on fauna to get reviews on. Why venture into the complete unknown when there are other possibilities are far as care and health, if not quality.

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