Best genetic possibilities

[herpchick]

Hi, i'm new to this forum and it seems more active than most so I'll ask you guys. I have a 1.1 100% het clown balls that i'm going to breed when the female gets up to size, but I was wondering what you guys thought would be a couple other good options for females to breed my male with. I was thinking maybe a pastel and a spider(spider clowns do they even exist yet?). I know I wouldn't get anything too amazing at first just some spiders, pastels, and normals 66% het clown but that's where the fun begins. What do you guys think? Is there something better I should aim for?
Also, just thought of this, ok so a pastel and a spider give you a bumblebee right? so what do you get with a spider and a BLACK pastel? or am I just dumb and black pastels aren't co-dom and you'd get nothing

[Wh00h0069]

If you breed a 100% het to a non het then you will will not produce any visuals, and all of the offspring will be 50% possible hets.

If you breed, on the other hand a 100% het to a 100% het, then each egg has a 1/4 chance of being a visual. The rest of the clutch are 66% possible hets.

What I suggest is buying another 100% het female to breed to your 100% het male. What would make it more interesting is to buy a codom 100% het; such as a pastel 100% het. Then you have the possibility to produce pastel visuals, with your visual being a clown.

Hope this helps.

[herpchick]

Sorry, I meant i'd get 50% hets. If I bred my het male to a spider though, wouldn't I get 50% het clown spiders and 50% het clown normals? Then I could hold back the spiders and breed them to mom or dad and see if they prove out right? I'd love to get pastels het clown, but they're so darn expensive.
Any input or thoughts on the black pastel x spider?
thanks

[Wh00h0069]

Sorry, I meant i'd get 50% hets. If I bred my het male to a spider though, wouldn't I get 50% het clown spiders and 50% het clown normals? Then I could hold back the spiders and breed them to mom or dad and see if they prove out right? I'd love to get pastels het clown, but they're so darn expensive.
Any input or thoughts on the black pastel x spider?
thanks

There is no such thing as a 50% het, but there are 50% possible het, which means it has a 50% chance of being a het and a 50% chance of being a normal.

So if you were to breed a spider to a 100% het clown, the offspring would either be spiders or normals and all would have a 50% chance of being a het. You could then breed the spider females back to the male 100% het and if they proved out, then there is a possiblility of producing spider clowns.

A black pastel is a codom, so a black pastel bred to a spider could produce black pastel bees (not sure what the name is.)

Hope this helps.

[herpchick]

There is no such thing as a 50% het, but there are 50% possible het, which means it has a 50% chance of being a het and a 50% chance of being a normal.

That much I know, I figured if I wrote 50% het, 66% het, 100% het, that it was pretty much universal knowledge as to what it meant.
Anyways, I think what I'm going to do is get a 1.1 spiders and .1 black pastel. Breed the 1. het clown to the .1 spider and the 1. spider to the .1 black pastel( a black pastel bee sounds pretty cool, it should be called a black widow).
Thanks for the help

[dr del]

Hi,

That names already taken by a similar combo.

Enjoy.


dr del

[kc261]

It sounds like you understand the genetics, so really all you have to do is decide what you want to produce.

One comment is that most people would not choose to breed a phet male back to the mother. For one thing, in your example, het male bred to a spider female, breeding the phet offspring to the female wouldn't prove if they were het or not anyway, since the mother isn't het in the first place. And since there is no super spider, even a spider phet clown male bred back to the spider female doesn't gain you anything.

But even if we assume you are talking about offspring from your 1.1 het clown pair... why waste the female on a male that could be just a normal when you can breed her to something with known genetics. Either the het male again, or perhaps something like a pastel to produce pastels phet clown.

[ScottyDsntKnow]

Hi,

That names already taken by a similar combo.

Enjoy.


dr del

RDR is using that name for something too, I think it was a black head x spider morph he was trying to work out. Not sure if he ever got it off the ground or canned it...

[Wh00h0069]

That much I know, I figured if I wrote 50% het, 66% het, 100% het, that it was pretty much universal knowledge as to what it meant.
Anyways, I think what I'm going to do is get a 1.1 spiders and .1 black pastel. Breed the 1. het clown to the .1 spider and the 1. spider to the .1 black pastel( a black pastel bee sounds pretty cool, it should be called a black widow).
Thanks for the help

I figured you did, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page before I started talking about what to breed to what. Also anyone else reading the post may not understand. Good luck on your breeding, keep us posted.

[Gloryhound]

We might actually get to try a version of that late in the breeding season. We are planning on breeding our Lemon Bee to a Cinny Pastel. Not the same exact thing, but it should be pretty close!