yeah the Caramel was a quick buy but then i wasnt sure what to do with him as i started in co dom and just in the last 6 months have i thought about recessives after talking with a few people ive decided to work on making hets with him pass them all off except a male and then pic up a girl to pair the het to then in about 5-6 years i hope to have a good base group to work with i think if i had a single passion project it would be this on im not sure the photos show it but he has a smale kink by his tail just past his vent thanks everyone i have both Heather Wong and Bryce Honstead to thank they have made my bp breedings jump to next year(for more morphs) rather than year after next they are great people