I think my burmese just died in its hands

[FloridaHogs]

why are people so worried about spending 20 bucks for some relief for their snakes?

For me it is not about the money at all. I would spend $100 without flinching. For me it is poison vs nonpoison. Out of 70+ animals, over 20 of them are animals the have a sensitivity to P.A.M. type products. If I have an alternative method, that is poison free and works, then why would I even want that stuff near my collection? To me the convience of P.A.M. is not worth the risk.

[dr del]

Hi,

Have you had any experience on the biological control front?

I read about mites that eat the snake mites for example and wondered if that would be an even better solution from the animals perspective?


dr del

[bigballs]

well after going through 12 pages, i guess its safe to say: dont lock an animal in a container after spraying chemicals everywhere.

i dont know how that wasnt obvious before but congrats on the ressurection.

[dadspets]

why are people so worried about spending 20 bucks for some relief for their snakes?

Money is not an issue here. I just have a better solution that has worked for me and others many of times. So why look else were. I own over 50 snakes, breed all my own feeder food and run a reptile business so no money is not it. It's the proven ability that olive oil works wonders with out having to pay more money for something else. All I can talk about is my experiance w/ olive oil, I have never used R.R. so I can not commint on it.

[FloridaHogs]

Hi,

Have you had any experience on the biological control front?

I read about mites that eat the snake mites for example and wondered if that would be an even better solution from the animals perspective?


dr del

No, I have not even heard of that. The idea of bringing bugs into my house to eat bugs is......well....kinda creepy! Knowing my luck, they would eat any mites and then start on me!!

[Mike Schultz]

That was dumb, but i'm glad it turned out alright.

As for the mite debate... I havent had the problem yet, but if I do I am more inclined to try something like Olive oil or baby soap before spraying pesticides in my snake enclosure.

[nixer]

Though I have nothing to say on the 'resurrected' snake I will add a note about the Reptile Relief.
A long time ago when I was still relatively new to reptiles I had picked up a red tail from a swap meet. Well, it had mites, and not knowing what I know now I headed off to the store to get mite removal spray. I came home, followed directions on the bottle and in about an hour the snake was dead. Now, even with it being a swap meet (not a reptile expo mind you, but a swap meet for anything) snake, it had been visually healthy prior to the Reptile Relief. I can't prove it but personally I would rather see all of it removed from pet store shelves. And this was about ten years ago give or take. Just my .02

everytime im in petco or petsmart i have to go look at the unproperly cared for herps and someone is always looking at buying those cute vitamins and stuff and everytime i usually talk them out of using that garbage and get something that works and isnt just there because its a zoomed or other products that are just a waste of $

i wonder how many orders of chloxhexidine gutomate 2% and provent-a-mite ive sold.

[JoMo]

Hi,

Have you had any experience on the biological control front?

I read about mites that eat the snake mites for example and wondered if that would be an even better solution from the animals perspective?


dr del

In a recent trip to the Hamm fair, a couple of friends of mine visited a Dutch venomous snakes´ breeder that uses such "mites".
He is sending a small culture - along with the scientific names and characteristics - that we´re going to analyse.

Apparently these "mites" are strickly carnivorous of other mites (and small thicks) and do not feed on blood, so they do not affect the snakes. They are also cannibalistic, so when the mites are gone, they start to eat their own...

I still have to study these animals a little bit before considering a test. But I´ve been hearing that they´ve been successfuly used specially in naturalistic enclosures where they´re a tremendous help in natural/biological control of (bad) mites

[Jojos]

Thank you for the pic. He seems OK. I was a bit skeptical I must agree.

[dr del]

Hi,

Yes this is the product they are talking about.

And they are briefly discussed in this post on reptileforums.co.uk.

And here are some more links with information about them;

link1.

Link 2.

Link 3.

There certainly seem to be people who find them very effective - and, as long as you were ok with the idea of even more li'l bugs running around the place for a time, they might be an ideal solution for those of you with sensitive animals.

It should be pointed out it's a one or the other deal with these methods before someone complains they bought both and PAM killed the good mites as well.

I havent found anyone who has used them with tarantulas yet but they could be ideal in that situation.

**edit**

Tarantulas are mentioned at the bottom of this page so should be all right.

**end edit**


dr del