New Dragons

[SilverWolf]

Well, we seemed to have gotten another great Craigslist find. My boyfriend answered an ad for two Bearded Dragons. We went to look at them and decided it was a great deal. For $50 we got a male and female about 1 year old. They look in great shape not counting the shorter tails. Apparently they lost part of their tails from the usual babys being kept together too long. But they at least have all their toes. We were told that they are Sandfire Hypo Tigers. Since they are most likely siblings we won't be breeding them together but we have another female Bearded Dragon that has been laying eggs like crazy but hasn't been with a male yet.
Of course they will be in quarantine and need to get a fecal done. But my boyfriends wish to have little baby dragons seems to be coming true.

Sorry for the crappy pictures I just couldn't seem to get their true colors to show. But at least you'll have some idea.
Male/Female


Male


Thanks!

[Beardedragon]

Make sure you serperate them asap and get them off that sand!!

Otherwise nice beardies.


I would not recommend breeding them to anything, because I doubt you would be able to get a background check on the male to breed with your female.

[mischevious21]

Make sure you serperate them asap and get them off that sand!!

Otherwise nice beardies.


I would not recommend breeding them to anything, because I doubt you would be able to get a background check on the male to breed with your female.

Conrats on the pickup

Amd on another note, sand isnt the best, but it's not too bad once their adults and don want to eat EVERYTHING.. Once my guy was full grown we put him on sand, and there were no problems with it. In Australia, they live on sand. And I went through my sand to make sure there was never anyhting in it- there theres no one to do that. Course, they also eat wild bugs there too, which I NEVER fed him anything from back yards or places I didnt trust, but still. Now for babies, I never would. But they should be fine.

[SilverWolf]

Sorry, I forgot to add the *this is not the enclosure they are staying in*. They were only in the tub with sand for the photo shoot and while my boyfriend was setting up their enclosures. I like to take pictures of our animals as we first get them and then of course later on to see how they have changed. We use tile in the enclosures. So much easier to clean up. lol This will give you an idea of their enclosures. This is the first one my dad and I built. Of course they have different hides and branches in theirs.



As for the breeding comment, maybe it's just because I'm really tired but I'm a little confused on the not getting a background on the male. Could you explain a little more for me? I think I have an idea what you mean, but before I comment I'd like to be sure. Thanks!

[Beardedragon]

Conrats on the pickup

Amd on another note, sand isnt the best, but it's not too bad once their adults and don want to eat EVERYTHING.. Once my guy was full grown we put him on sand, and there were no problems with it. In Australia, they live on sand. And I went through my sand to make sure there was never anyhting in it- there theres no one to do that. Course, they also eat wild bugs there too, which I NEVER fed him anything from back yards or places I didnt trust, but still. Now for babies, I never would. But they should be fine.

They actually live on compacted clay. Really I cannot see why people like sand at all, its hell to clean and hard to get all of it when they poop or pee. There are also risks involved, so I just stick to ceramic tile.

Sorry, I forgot to add the *this is not the enclosure they are staying in*. They were only in the tub with sand for the photo shoot and while my boyfriend was setting up their enclosures. I like to take pictures of our animals as we first get them and then of course later on to see how they have changed. We use tile in the enclosures. So much easier to clean up. lol This will give you an idea of their enclosures. This is the first one my dad and I built. Of course they have different hides and branches in theirs.


As for the breeding comment, maybe it's just because I'm really tired but I'm a little confused on the not getting a background on the male. Could you explain a little more for me? I think I have an idea what you mean, but before I comment I'd like to be sure. Thanks!

Oh ok!! Just making sure. By backround I mean know who his parents are back to three generations. Same with your female to make sure that they are no where related, or that any of his parents were inbred as well. Its pretty common because people keep siblings together, the female gets pregnant( young...) and they sell the living babys.

[SilverWolf]

Ok, that is what I thought you meant. As for their background, I'm checking into it as the previous owner did give me the name and contact info of the breeder they got them from. So we will see what kind of info I get.

Now I understand how it is important to know the background, parents, grandparents, etc on a lot of animals. But I guess it's not as important for snakes as just on this forum alone I see lots of people who don't know much about their snakes background and still breed them. I have a strong opinion about say dog breeding, and only breeding to improve the breed, showing or field trials to show that your dog is as close to standard and can do what it was breed for. But sadly I don't think some people think it's as important for animals such as reptiles. I don't know, maybe it's not as important as I haven't been into reptiles as long as I've been into dogs.

But thanks for the concern.

[Beardedragon]

Snakes can handle inbreeding a few times, but beardies cannot. If they are even a little bit related you will end up with kinky aggressive very sick beardies that have to be put down.

[SilverWolf]

Thanks. I figured it had to be ok for snakes considering I saw it so much. Like I said, I'm still a newbie when it comes to reptiles. My boyfriend is the one who has grown up with reptiles.

It's still up in the air if he'll breed this male with his other female but I've been letting him know all I've been told and researching myself so he can hopefully make the right decision.

But in other news, they both came back with clean bills of health from the vet!
But thank you again for all your knowledge, it does help us newbies.