Quote Originally Posted by the odds god View Post
Albey, why the need to knock down Black Pastels everytime the subject comes up? No doubt, Cinnamon make awesome combos as clearly demonstrated with your animals.

Black Pastels are gaining in popularity and there many different strains out there, some resembling Cinnamons more then others.

Black Pastel make equaly interesting combos;



As for the nose issue, it does not prevent them from thriving, does it? Should they've culled the first English Bulldogs because of their nose issue?

Why the need to knock down other projects people work with? I sure hope not for the benefit of your own Cinnamon projects!
I am not actually putting them down jut promoting what I like better. You are right though; it is time for me to give it a rest. I do have some good reasons for doing it though. The reason I got into the Cinnamons in the first place was because I saw the first Pewter that Graziani produced at the National Reptile Breeders Expo that year. I was knocked out by it. I purchased a Cinnamon from him about a month later. Than I started seeing different breeders on the Forums saying thing like “Yea Cinnamons are nice looking but the Black Pastel’s make better Pewters” and such. I just didn’t see it and I never would have gotten into them if Black Pastels were the only choice. When I produced my first Pewters I made a point of posting picture of it and making sure people knew it was produced with a Cinnamon. Then another thing happened that knocked Cinnamons down a notch. Marc Mandic thought he had produced a Cinnamon version of the Silver Streak that was nowhere near as nice as the Black Pastel version. It ended up he was wrong about it when he produced a real one later on that same year but the damage had been done. I have been spreading the gospel about Cinnamons with my Pewters, Sterling Pastels, and my Silver Bullet ever since. It is funny that you say “Black Pastels are gaining in popularity” when I have always felt that it was the other way around that the Cinnamons are finally starting to gain in popularity. LOL

As far as the nose thing goes, I have seen Super Black Pastels that didn’t have it either so it probably isn’t going to be an issue for either of them soon.

By the way, those are some killer combos that you posted. I sure wish I had those.