Quote Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
OK, I didn't attack your methods, I just laid out what I do. And I'm an insomniac with sporadic sleeping habits. I didn't say I watch my snakes 24/7. I've observed them plenty of times at every given hour of the day and night. Tubs are convenient for the keepers, but that doesn't make it wrong for the animal. Again, when I keep chameleons, they live in a 65g reptarium or large vertical custom screen enclosure. Dart frogs get appropriately sized glass vivariums. My colubrids get big enclosures with some climbing space. My Macklott's python had a 90g lizard lounge. My ball pythons now get cozy tubs. Even when I only had 1.1, I kept them in 12qt tubs while 10g and 20g glass aquariums sat unused in my closet. That's just how I roll.
I didn't think you were attacking my methods... And again... I hope you don't feel I am attacking yours. I visited your website and from what I can tell you have your stuff together, and are pretty successful keeping your animals. If anything I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me. There is always something to learn and I have been enlightened many times before. Discussions like this are what keep the hobby moving forward.

"Tubs are convenient for the keepers, but that doesn't make it wrong for the animal."

Its not that I think small tubs are "wrong for the animal" because "they are convenient for the keeper". It is when we accept something is the right way simply because its convenient. From my observations of my own BP, Roaming her enclosure is part of her daily routine. I find her wrapping and stretching in the most creative of ways, and this is a nighlty behavior. Would it be "right for the animal" for me to not allow her this part of her routine by moving her into a small tub for my own convenience? While this roaming behavior may not be critical to her physical health, or what we percieve as healthy... And we can assume all we want about why they exhibit a certain behavior, regardless, I think our goal should be to allow to them excercise as many natural behaviors as we can cater to in captivity.

Just my thoughts.