Yes, kinda. Jungle, according to the BP gurus, is a pattern difference. There are normals that are concidered jungles because of their pattern. The BP world in general just tag that name along with the pastel. Kinda like a lot of people refere to cinnamons as cinnamon pastels. They are not pastels, they are cinnys. I took the question above as what has happened to the pastels since jungle is often added to the pastel. You are also right about the jungles not being proven. It is a random happening that some thinks may be caused by undetermined egg stress.