thanks, i'll get some pics up tonight prolly in abuot 4 or so hours from now. the more i read i'm beginning to think black racer eggs could be a better guess. i've been trying to get ahold of some biologist from the area but no responses yet. a breeder friend suggested slitting them after a day or two. so far a slit 2 eggs open and nothing happened. both were slit last night, they are the first two pipped. the rest i will leave alone until further help.

and i do need help, i know a good amount about the herps of PA but i have never bred or hatched anything, so i am out of the loop here and need help.

thanks