super morphs?

[Athen]

ok so i am new to the whole genetics and morphs side of BP's and am trying to get and understanding of it all and it seems to me that when any morph is a super it generally is a solid white or has white on it aside from the super cinny which is all black with a white belly is this correct? and on a side note how much would one expect a super cinny to cost?

[kc261]

Super pastels are not all white.

Super black pastel looks very similar to the super cinny.

I think there are others but I'm drawing a blank right now.

[Spaniard]

The term super comes into play with Co-dominant traits. When both parents are the same co-dom trait the offspring has a 25% chance of being a super. A super is the homozygous expression of a co-dominant trait and it doesn't always produce an all white or black snake.

Some other supers are the Super Calico, Super Vanilla, Spotnose has the super form called a Power Ball, and thats all I can think of right now besides all the various white snake producing crosses....

[West Coast Jungle]

There are also super granites floating around.

If you think about it a super is like a recessive only the het is a visible(pastel, mojave, spotnose etc..) form and with a recessive it looks normal.

Did that confuse you?

[Athen]

i apparently wasnt all that clear when i typed my question my appologies for not more specific on how i worded it what i was meaning was i know that all supers arent solid white or solid black. what i meant when i said or at least some white is like the super pastel jungle those are regarded as a white snake since the pink they have as babies ( the only pics i have seen of them are as babies ) is supposed to turn white as they age correct? again sorry that i wasnt completely clear in what i meant in the OP

[Athen]

There are also super granites floating around.

If you think about it a super is like a recessive only the het is a visible(pastel, mojave, spotnose etc..) form and with a recessive it looks normal.

Did that confuse you?

LOL honestly yes it did i tend to get incredibly confused when ever the mention of het and hypo and homo and recessive and codom comes up i am starting to get a basic understanding of what most of them mean but there is no way on gods green earth i could ever be able to get into a conversation and have any of those terms used and be able to honestly say i understood what was being said 100% id love to learn and am trying but its a lot to remember

[kc261]

i apparently wasnt all that clear when i typed my question my appologies for not more specific on how i worded it what i was meaning was i know that all supers arent solid white or solid black. what i meant when i said or at least some white is like the super pastel jungle those are regarded as a white snake since the pink they have as babies ( the only pics i have seen of them are as babies ) is supposed to turn white as they age correct? again sorry that i wasnt completely clear in what i meant in the OP

It will help you to be more clear if you put a little more effort in to typing proper English. My apologies if English isn't your native language, but since your profile says you live in California, there is a good chance you are more fluent than this post sounds.

Anyway, I'll still try to answer. I'll admit I have never seen an adult super pastel in person, but I do not believe they end up with a large amount of white on them.

[kc261]

LOL honestly yes it did i tend to get incredibly confused when ever the mention of het and hypo and homo and recessive and codom comes up i am starting to get a basic understanding of what most of them mean but there is no way on gods green earth i could ever be able to get into a conversation and have any of those terms used and be able to honestly say i understood what was being said 100% id love to learn and am trying but its a lot to remember

First of all, hypo is not a genetic term in the same way recessive and dominant are. Hypo is just the name of one of the BP morphs. For some reason, that seems to be a common mistake.

The best way to learn genetics is to do some research, then come back and ask when you have specific questions. Most of the major breeders have pages explaining genetics, and also it works the same whether you are talking about snakes or flowers or whatever, so there are TONS of web pages out there that are intended to teach the basics.

If you don't ask a specific question, we could type pages and either you'd still be lost because you don't know basics we assumed you did, or we'd just say stuff you already know and never teach you anything new.

[SUPERBALLS]

my adult super pastel



as you can see not all white but very pretty
and not to be rude but athen what the hell are you talking about

[dcgator24]

Being a super does not mean a white snake. Don't know where you heard or read that. A super pastel is not regarded as a white snake. It is much lighter than a pastel, with more extreme blushing. But we don't consider it a white snake. And this term white snake is starting to grate. There are blue and black eyed leucistics, not white snakes.