Not to mention the fact that you have to disinfect all that stuff and maintain cleanliness in a cage full of ten thousand things. You know it really sorta irks me when you take the time to teach or guide someone who has been given bad advice or has never been given any advice what so ever on how to care for there animal correctly. You spend the time trying to tell them what they are doing is going to run them into trouble at some point and how they should do it. Then you get someone who comes along and undermines you by telling them what they wanted to hear in the first place so now they think its ok to keep snakes in cages that are to big for them as long as you pack it full of enough crap.Even though that may not be exactly how you ment it thats what they take from it. I guess if Dave Barker was telling people this it would be a different story since Dave has worked with thousands of snakes so I would say unless you have worked with thousands of snakes its a bad idea to tell anyone anything that goes agents what captive husandry has taught us in the past 30 years or so.