Explain axanthic line compatibility Please

[Jerhart]

I am sure this has been explained, but I have heard that not all axanthic lines are compatible with eachother? Does this mean you wont get an axanthing with say a vpi het bred to a TSK het? Does this make sense? Or am I making things up? And has a snow hatched using the tsk line yet? Or has it been done? Just curious! Thanks all!

[jknudson]

I am sure this has been explained, but I have heard that not all axanthic lines are compatible with eachother? Does this mean you wont get an axanthing with say a vpi het bred to a TSK het? Does this make sense? Or am I making things up? And has a snow hatched using the tsk line yet? Or has it been done? Just curious! Thanks all!

None of the three lines are compatible. TSK, VPI, and Joliff...to get axanthics from hets they must be from the same line.

If you bred a het VPI to a het TSK you'd get possible DH for both lines.

Here's a SK Axanthic, it's a more uncommonly kept line, I think they're sort of cool:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/axanthic.jpg

A snow has been hatched using the TSK line, picture here:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/sksnowball_lg.jpg

Any other questions?

[reptile3]

A snow has been hatched using the TSK line, picture here:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/sksnowball_lg.jpg

OMG! that snake is stunning!!!!

[Jerhart]

None of the three lines are compatible. TSK, VPI, and Joliff...to get axanthics from hets they must be from the same line.

If you bred a het VPI to a het TSK you'd get possible DH for both lines.

A snow has been hatched using the TSK line, picture here:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/sksnowball_lg.jpg

Any other questions?

Perfect!

I just wasnt sure and wanted to double check! Thanks fellow minnesotian!

[jknudson]

Perfect!

I just wasnt sure and wanted to double check! Thanks fellow minnesotian!

No problem bro!

Just remember...the DH are only going to give you one line or the other...as far as I remember the DH aren't going to give you a 1 in 16 VPI SK Axanthic combo, the genes can't work that way.

[MarkS]

No problem bro!

Just remember...the DH are only going to give you one line or the other...as far as I remember the DH aren't going to give you a 1 in 16 VPI SK Axanthic combo, the genes can't work that way.

Is that right Jason? I hadn't heard of that before and I don't see why you couldn't have a double homozygous axanthic from two different lines? Who's proved that you can't? I can see where it would be very difficult to prove it was double homozygous, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

[jknudson]

Is that right Jason? I hadn't heard of that before and I don't see why you couldn't have a double homozygous axanthic from two different lines? Who's proved that you can't? I can see where it would be very difficult to prove it was double homozygous, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I could've sworn I've seen a conversation about this before and it was explained that it shouldn't work...

Where's Randy Remington?

Edit:
Here's one of the discussions I'm referring to:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?p=346401

[muddoc]

I don't know if you could say that it won't work, as I don't think there have been enough breedings of DH Axanthics to know the true outcome. As far as I know, none of the DH x DH breedings have ever been documented anywhere. I have heard they have happened, but never read the results anywhere.

I personally believe it is possible.

[Jerhart]

I don't know if you could say that it won't work, as I don't think there have been enough breedings of DH Axanthics to know the true outcome. As far as I know, none of the DH x DH breedings have ever been documented anywhere. I have heard they have happened, but never read the results anywhere.

I personally believe it is possible.

Tim, are you talking about the DH x DH for snows havent been documented Because they have havent they? Or are you talking about the DHxDH with two different axanthic lines have never been documented?

[muddoc]

Tim, are you talking about the DH x DH for snows havent been documented Because they have havent they? Or are you talking about the DHxDH with two different axanthic lines have never been documented?

DH x DH involving DH's for 2 different strains of Axanthic (i.e DH VPI / TSK Axanthics bred together). I know there are some DH Axanthics out there, as some people, especially Mike Jolliff, have tried to breed 2 strains of Axanthics together to prove compatibility. So, DH's definitely exist. I just have never seen any documantation of them being bred together and what the outcomes were.

I have long thought about getting another line of Axanthics just to try the breeding.