Thanks again all! I appreciate the input and am going to do a few more. As far as the program. I work in a few different programs. Swish sometimes and a couple that do cool flash effects like the melting of the logo. To put together quick banners though there is a program called Koolmoves and one called Flash intro and banner maker that is pretty simple although limited. I am not a design guy. I like updating site content and working with an existing design and tweaking it. I can't take an idea in my head though and make it come alive. I keep trying though!