so after cleaning everything out spraying papertowels with provent-a-mite and spraying antimite safe-for-reptiles spray on all of them i found out that tortoises and beardies can get mites. tortoises get huge ones. hopefully they will go away soon. my kenyan sand boas are pissed they cant burrow though. they'll get over it soon i hope.

thanks for the help.

also what is the deal with the 'pam' trick for future reference.