Thanks Ill have to keep an eye on them see how they do. The kicked out one did have good strong veins. So guess Ill see what happens. Last year she was a really good mom. Did the hissing thing and the biting thing when I tried to get her off the eggs. She wasnt like that this time. Also was coiled up nicely around the eggs. But not this year. In the pictures thats how she was coiled around them when I found her. The eggs were a little cool,so I hope they all make it. Thanks again