Quote Originally Posted by LizardofOzz View Post
Whats wrong with caramels? I heard someone say they wouldnt work with them for similar reasons?
What's wrong with Caramels? If you want to produce snakes that have a great propensity towards spinal kinking, which also may or may not live due to the severity of said kinking, then go right ahead. I, myself, don't want to work with genes like that. Sure, everyone gets Caramels that don't have problems(or at least unnoticeable problems), but there's always that potential.

What if a not-so-honest seller hatches a caramel, who, say, has a small kink at the end of its tail. The breeder can easily amputate the end of the tail and sell it as a perfectly healthy, non-kinked Caramel.

I've been reading that some breeders have been experimenting with wetness levels and temperatures with Caramel clutches. For me, and this is just in my humble, honest opinion, if such great measures need to be taken to ensure the survival of this morph, and discourage spinal deformities in the snakes, then they really aren't meant to survive. Out in a burrow in Ghana, Togo or wherever, the eggs aren't going to get any special treatment, and any deformed hatchlings will easily get picked off or their deformities may hinder them in some way(constricting, eating, breathing). Also, how do we know that the kinked animals don't have internal deformities related to their spinal problems? I'm kind of attributing it to scoliosis, where the disease can get worse as the animal/person ages. Breathing becomes difficult, the chest cavity becomes compressed in severe cases, and the animal/person eventually suffocates from the disease progression.

OKAY! Too much soap box for me tonight But that, in a nutshell, is why I choose to work with some morphs and not others. Maybe, quite a few years down the line, if Caramels become MUCH less inbred, and kinking is a thing of the past, I would feel comfortable about it. I'm okay with working with 1-2 Spiders because they all have the problem, and they are about as outcrossed as a morph can get(plus, I love Honeybees, Spinners, and Albino Spiders). Even with their problems, Spiders just seem slightly higher on the totem pole right now.