How Much Wobble Is Too Much In Spiders?

[rbchesapeakeball]

She is very nice, reduced and high white.

Rich

[Bill Buchman]

I have one Spider that has NO signs of wobble and one that is a "severe spinner". The 2 Spider offspring of the first are "normal in behavior". The second is a female that is likely to be ready to breed next season. Is it known whether the "syndrome" is totally random or is it passed directly from animal to offspring?

[greghall]

She is very nice, reduced and high white.

Rich

RICH I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU AT THE SHOW BUT YOU WERENT AT YOU TABLE,LIKE THE PEID YOU HAD.

[snakelady]

I'm getting one in aug and I'll be looking for one that doesn't have symptoms.

[casperca]

This is a very good topic. I am curious to hear what everyone has to say about the ethics of disclosure portion.

[rbchesapeakeball]

Hey Greg,

I saw you walk by as I was talking to someone, and then I didn't see you again, did you leave early.

Rich

[SatanicIntention]

IMHO, they all do it. I've sat and watched mine cruise around their tubs and they don't do the spinning or have any of the severe signs. The male has a slight head tilt and can get a little overstimulated if he's stressed. My female hasn't showed signs since she was a little worm and I've watched her for a good 2 hours before. She doesn't wobble if food is present but as I said, the male can get overexcited and go side to side a little.

Some of my normals get very excited during feeding time as well and will vibrate or wobble their heads before a strike.

But anyway. Just from observing spiders at shows from both big and small breeders, they all shows signs of it in some form or another. It may just be a slight head tilt when they're cruising around and nothing more, or it may be full blown spinning and they lay with their heads inverted on the tub floor.

For me, I believe it's completely genetic, and regardless of how outcrossed they are(and they REALLY are very outcrossed), it's not going to go away. It's just a genetic disorder that is linked to the spider gene. If you don't like it, don't buy spiders, simple as that(the exact reason why I won't buy Caramels, EVER).

[nevohraalnavnoj]

For me, I believe it's completely genetic, and regardless of how outcrossed they are(and they REALLY are very outcrossed), it's not going to go away. It's just a genetic disorder that is linked to the spider gene. If you don't like it, don't buy spiders, simple as that(the exact reason why I won't buy Caramels, EVER).

I second that. I checked my male spider over up and down when he was a hatchling...he had no inklings of it whatsoever. Then at about the 11 month mark he started twitching like he drank too much coffee. Now two months later, it has subsided. Will it pop up again? Probably, just something one has to deal with.

I also agree with your reasoning on the caramels, Becky.

JonV

[greghall]

I LOOKED AROUND AWHILE & WAS LOOKING FOR A FEMALE SPIDER & THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THERE SO MY SON BOUGHT IT WITH HIS MONEY,HE'S THRILLED WITH IT BUT I DON'T LIKE THE WOBBLE,REALLY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THERE SPIDERS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE NO WOBBLE AT ALL,

[greghall]

I'm getting one in aug and I'll be looking for one that doesn't have symptoms.

GOOD LUCK ITS HARD TO TELL.