I got one better friday I went to a {breeders} house. She had a +/-700gram male and a +/-500 gram female in with a couple anoles a skink a hand full of crickets and a tub of earth worms. and there was also two +/-200 gram babies in there to.She also told me she had a pair that she could sell me that would produce spiders. Some times it pays to play dumb If you just listen you can find out how stupid a person really is!!!