So tell me what kind of snake I might like... :)

[Clementine_3]

Another snake you could consider is a carpet python. A little bit bigger than a ball, but not so big you need another person to help handle it. From what I hear they are much more visible also. A little nippy when young though.

I was going to suggest an Irian Jaya or Jungle, depending on your "max size limit". I have 2 IJ's and they are really great snakes both for handling and for display. My male is a bit over 2 years old and is around 4 1/2 feet, he probably won't get much bigger and my female is just over a year and probably around 3 1/2 feet or so-ish, she could get up to around 5 1/2 feet I'm guessing. They are both great to handle now (the female was a bit of a nipper but has calmed down), not as busy as a Corn snake but they don't just sit still either...they like to explore when they are out. They spend a lot of time on top of their hides and branches, the male really only uses his hides after a meal and when he's in shed, otherwise he's always draped over something! They truly are a great all around snake!

[ZinniaZ]

I am making a list and I plan to check each of these out either at the show at the end of august or at NERD. THANK you guys for the ideas-- more comments very welcome.

[FIEND_FO_LYFE]

I was going to suggest an Irian Jaya or Jungle, depending on your "max size limit". I have 2 IJ's and they are really great snakes both for handling and for display. My male is a bit over 2 years old and is around 4 1/2 feet, he probably won't get much bigger and my female is just over a year and probably around 3 1/2 feet or so-ish, she could get up to around 5 1/2 feet I'm guessing. They are both great to handle now (the female was a bit of a nipper but has calmed down), not as busy as a Corn snake but they don't just sit still either...they like to explore when they are out. They spend a lot of time on top of their hides and branches, the male really only uses his hides after a meal and when he's in shed, otherwise he's always draped over something! They truly are a great all around snake!

either your i.j.s are small...
or our friends, are giant!
lol

[Clementine_3]

either your i.j.s are small...
or our friends, are giant!
lol

Well, he still has some growing to do but I don't think he's going to get much bigger. The female is still young, just a year old, so who knows with her...time will tell. I know she will be bigger than he is, it's just a question of how much bigger

[kc261]

You might find it worthwhile to look at this thread... 8 pages of suggestions of different colubrids:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67180

Right now we have 1 BP and 1 corn. We love them both and I 2nd Bruce (loft lizard) in saying that they make a good complement to each other. The corn is much more active and less shy. I've even seen her poke her head out of her hide to see what is going on when I walk past her enclosure and make a shadow. And of course you get the difference between a heavy bodied snake and a more slender one. Plus corns come in a whole rainbow of colors, and since they've been breeding corn morphs for over 50 years (as opposed to I think it was '92 when the first albino BPs were bred), most of those morphs can be had very inexpensively.

[Bruce Whitehead]

most of those morphs can be had very inexpensively.

I agree with you there. I think that if one wants to basically hand select a certain color and patter of snake... with a corn you can do it.

I mean I love snakes and celebrate them all... but there are times when you just really want a pink snake... a grey snake... a yellow snake... and it does not mean that you do not respect the snake. But *meh*... a bit of self-indulgence is not always a bad thing.

bruce

Who really wanted a pink snake... and has one.

[Mike Schultz]

I'd recommend a cali kingsnake

They are very active, inquisitive snakes and they don't get too large (4-5 feet and built like rat snakes). They are also good looking snakes, depending on which morph you get. They are not as diverse as corn snakes or ball pythons, but there are definitely a good few choices.

[frankykeno]

Pick me! Pick me!





(Albino Nelson's Milksnake - female - named Emi)

[FIEND_FO_LYFE]

Well, he still has some growing to do but I don't think he's going to get much bigger. The female is still young, just a year old, so who knows with her...time will tell. I know she will be bigger than he is, it's just a question of how much bigger

lol my friends is a male, about 16 years old, and he is pushing 6 foot...
hes a nice big ol boy!

[Schlyne]

either your i.j.s are small...
or our friends, are giant!
lol

I expect my female IJCP to hit 8 feet, but I've seen her parents. Her momma is 8 feet....imported in 99? from the wild as part of the first batch. Absolutely gorgeous.

I'm pretty sure my pair is around 6 feet now, but I don't expect rapid growth spurts anymore. You don't really think about how long they are until you've got one in hand. Even then I'm not really worried about the constricting power, it's more "length management".