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    Question Pastel Comparison

    I'm hoping to get my first morph later this summer, and it only seems fitting that I start off with the entry level pastel....

    But which one? Lemon? Blonde? Jungle? Graziani? What are the differences? Are any of them known for having genetic problems (like a kinked spine)? Do you have to have pastels of the same line to make the supers? Do you have to have a certain type to make the pewter? Do any of them hold their coloring better into adulthood? Sorry for the rapid fire questions... I just want to make an educated decision.

    Anything you have to input would be appreciated

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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    There are no genetic problems that I know of associated with the pastels. All pastel lines are compatable with each others so you do not need two of the same line to produce supers. Any pastel is capable of producing pewters. Lemon Pastels are known to hold their bright yellows longer, while Graziani tend to be more blushed as they get older. I think selective breeding plays a bigger role in pastel than the "line" they come from. You can find beauitful examples of pastels holding their colors ect. from all of the lines out there. Do your research and pick the animal that appeals to you the most.

    This is my Lemon Pastel when he was a baby for an example of the line...
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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    Thanks, that's very helpful stuff, and that's a very nice looking pastel!

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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    No problem

    Edit: Thank You for the compliment as well.
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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    Here are a few different lines.
    Adult Graziani line

    Baby Bell line

    Adult unknown line

    No kinking issues that I am aware of. All the major pastel lines are compatible and will produce supers.
    All lines have nice animals. Pick the animal you like the best. Look for a light baby with very little orange on the sides (that turns brown as they age).

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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    My guy is a Graziani offspring. I say "offspring" as he was bred by a breeder local to me, but the dad is from Graziani.

    Holding his color well (actually he has not lost any at all) but did get a bit of dorsal tipping, which the breeder told me he would.

    I took close to two years to pick out a pastel I liked and would work with the projects I wanted to pursue. For what I like in a pastel and what I was looking for... he was the perfect snake (and still is).

    Zoltan as a babe...




    Zoltan now...







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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    Wow Bruce, How old is Zoltan? With my limited experience I would say he's one of the absolutely brightest older pastels I've ever seen...sweetness
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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    Thanks FT... like I said... I looked at alot of pastels before deciding on him. Baby pics and adult pics (of the same snake) to try and get an idea of how he would age.

    He is a July 06. 1200g.... and would breed a paper towel tube if given the chance.

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    Wow Bruce, How old is Zoltan? With my limited experience I would say he's one of the absolutely brightest older pastels I've ever seen...sweetness
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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    This is my lemon pastel at 1 year old. He's still this bright at almost 2 years old:







    Bottom line - there are excellent examples of each line, and there are poor examples of each line - pick the individual one that YOU like.

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    Re: Pastel Comparison

    just took pics of my lemon last night for ya!
    here you go, hes only 9 months old!



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