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    Re: central nerve problem

    looks like classic OPMV or IBD symptoms... you have both in your country, regardless of what you may hear.
    sorry to hear about it... these are both considered to be retrovirus and could have been contracted from a number of sources. OPMV has been overcome by adult animals after force feeding, but it's almost always fatal in juveniles.
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    Re: central nerve problem

    huh...
    what about aentabeba parazyt?
    it's not good also. deadly disease...

    but what if he has ''only'' brain encephalitis?

    I will fill him with antibiotisc now till 28.6.
    if no better...
    I can only take some other samples with my vet than. like from internal organs. unfortunatelly with a lot of rizics

    I am so mad to the breeder! I can't believe!
    sonya, yes the breeder has the best reputation in our country, that's why I can't believe!

    I've already log in into faunaclasiifields.
    And, yes me and my vet also think on OPMV.
    Unfortunately he'll die in this case.

    hm, I don't understand this;
    ''OPMV has been overcome by adult animals after force feeding, but it's almost always fatal in juveniles.''
    what does it mean?

    thank you
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    Re: central nerve problem

    what i meant is that many elapids and some pythons have been known to survive OPMV with continued force feeding... this keeps them from dying from anorexia, as they normally would. basically the neuro effects subside and the patient recovers. from what i've read it's all been healthy adults, rather than juvenilles. the bad news is that even if the side effects disappear and the snake recovers, it may still carry the virus and be transmittable.
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    Re: central nerve problem

    Can't you show up at the breeder's place?? Ring on her doorbell until you get an answer, call until you speak to her. She cannot ignore you like this! You bought an animal from her thinking that it was healthy, and it isn't!

    Something similar happened to me with a little bullmastiff puppy, in the end, she recovered from the illness she suffered from, but the breeder ended up paying for the treatment even though she would ignore us at first.
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    Re: central nerve problem

    what do you think to use kortikosteroid on him?

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    Re: central nerve problem

    It all depends how much is the shot?

    Personally, I would not want to keep this snake alive just for the simple fact that it could possibly infect other boids. Plus if its euthanized you can test it for these serious retro viruses.

    If you are doing this for scientific reasons go for it, unless its really expensive.

    Corticosteroids are an anti-inflammatory. It is a different route of treating this animal. Maybe a good choice, but could be worth a shot (no pun intended).

    I'm not a vet so dont take my word for all of this.

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    Re: central nerve problem

    Cortisoids reduce swelling/inflamation, but they also suppress the immune system. If there is an active infection steroids can cause it to go wild.

    As a last effort it may be something to try, but it does have risks.

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    Re: central nerve problem

    Also, corticosteroids only last as long as your using them. So if this is a chronic thing the prognosis is grim. That's if it actually works. If it's any of the suspected viruses any treatment should be considered pointless and a source of infection outbreak. Corticosteroids don't treat these two viruses as far as I know.

    If there was a way to tell for sure that it is swelling then great but I dont think that technology is readily available. CT scans and MRI's are expensive and even then trying to determine if swelling was present from those results would seem extremely difficult. What makes you think its encephalitis?

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    Re: central nerve problem

    My litlle sweet regius passed away today...

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    Re: central nerve problem

    Hi,


    I'm sorry to hear that.

    Are you having any more luck with the supplier?


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    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

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