How can you tell your BP likes you?

[sjsexotics]

well I consider all my reptiles and bird to be wild though they are captive breed because they jus will never be like my dog or cat and be predictabe they are much more there own persons ( animals) I think that is why I like hem so much I know my bird loves me or tolerates me cause I am the only one he does not bite bu as for my reptiles I think hey like to be well cared for and enjoy careful handeling and I think they too can like a person over another

[kanarybird]

"ITs ok to eat fish
cause they haven't any feelings...

something in the way..."

-Kurt Cobain


It's egomaniacal to think that animals do not have a spiritual center, which is where emotions are created from. Native Americans and other primitive tribes around the world revere the natural world and it's relation to emotion. Our intellects may outgrow us and leave our troubled puddle like bodies useless and listless.

IQ shmy-cue. Ever seen a dolphin create toxic emissions or suck the last drop of fossil fuel out of the ground. Instinct and emotion are inexorably linked and we can't condescend the creatures on this planet who haven't evolved. Maybe we evolved out of our own self-destructive convenience.

[littleindiangirl]

It's egomaniacal to think that animals do not have a spiritual center, which is where emotions are created from. Native Americans and other primitive tribes around the world revere the natural world and it's relation to emotion. Our intellects may outgrow us and leave our troubled puddle like bodies useless and listless.

So is your theory based on theology?

[kanarybird]

No, history.

[littleindiangirl]

No, history.

So.... Native Americans believing in the spirit of the earth is history, so therefore all animals have spirits that's directly linked to their emotions and instincts?

Sounds like theology to me.

[kanarybird]

No, the fact that our emotional side didn't develop AFTeR our intellect or out of line with a concept of nature and out place within the macrocosm. It's our intellect and ambition that has done the damage. Animals may not have a great intellect (to do math, build electronics etc) but it's probably because they didn't need it. We developed our intellect as a natural mechanism to survive. Seems outdated now.

[kanarybird]

Simply suggesting that emotions, creation, interraction, magnetism et al. are all co-dependant. The only thing a high intellect is good for is building crap to sell at radio shack.

[littleindiangirl]

No, the fact that our emotional side didn't develop AFTER our intellect or out of line with a concept of nature and out place within the macrocosm. It's our intellect and ambition that has done the damage. Animals may not have a great intellect (to do math, build electronics etc) but it's probably because they didn't need it. We developed our intellect as a natural mechanism to survive. Seems outdated now.

This is a fact? Again, what proof do you have that any animals know emotions as humans know them? Your in a sense saying that having emotions is a fact and hinting at the idea that animals intelligence has no bearing on emotional capacity. Am I getting that right?

I'm trying to read your statements in relation to the original topic, and frankly, I have no idea what tangent your attempting to go off on. Humans destroying the planet? Animals don't?

Maybe since animals don't destroy the planet like you have said, perhaps humans needed to learn how to judge ourselves with a conscience and learn sympathy.