Quote Originally Posted by ThyTempest View Post
Allright, lemme clarify a bit.

The whole visitors room idea. I meant this as a solution, or at least a compromise for the breeders that dont attend shows, etc. I think this would primarily be small time breeders that may only have a few clutches a year.

If there is no other means to see the animal in person, then I think the breeder should allow the buyer to come to wherever it is the snake is kept, or make some other arrangements to find a suitable location.
I don't know why you think a breeder HAS to have a show room, or let anyone into their facility at all. It's like you don't believe that the previous reasons are good enough.

I would be a small time breeder, but I also have thousands invested in my animals already. My home isn't a secure compound, it's in the middle of the boonies with not too many neighbors.... why in HELL would I let some stranger who KNOWS the value of my snakes, into my home and see my whole operation??? That's just about the most foolish thing I can think of.

Not only are my snakes irreplaceable, but I have other things in my home that are irreplaceable or at least cost a bit of money. I wouldn't want that stolen either.


I am always expecting people to meet me somewhere, and I am overly gracious and grateful if they ever let me see their facility or home operation.

Maybe when you have just as much invested as others here, you'll understand where we're coming from.

Maybe I am just too trusting, but when you think about buying any other animal, lets say a puppy or a kitten, from a small time breeder, or accidental breeder maybe, you would expect to be able to see the animal you want the get. i think the same courtesy should apply to reptiles.
I think while your intentions make sense in the dog breeding business, I see absolutely no reason why EVERYONE has to allow you into their facility. Like I and many others have already said, it's a HUGE risk to let joe blow into their home.


Reptiles aren't being judged on build, friendliness, how they interact with people and if they are being raised in a "family environment".

Most reptiles, especially snakes are based almost purely on appearance and genetics. Showing the parents is completely optional, and in ball pythons, it's not entirely relevant to how the individual animal will look as an adult.

It's nice to see, but do I have to show you in person?

It's more important when it comes to animals like bloods, where they gain more color as they age, but not balls IMO.