thanks every one. I will have to say he is very very yellow and orange. The guy who had him bred a nerd female with a nerd male, my male is from that breeding. I dont know if he is a good looking male or not.(I really like him) He is how ever very junky with all the black markings. He has some nice blushing, white belly, and a ton of flames. (they look like flames but I dont know what they are called on pastels.) I'll try and take some photos as soon as I can. I'm moving into our new house today and I have to wait untill friday for my computer to get here. so maybe saterday I'll have some pictures.