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View Poll Results: Het Pied "Markers"--fact or fiction?

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  • Fact - I have proven poss het pieds with markers to be hets several times.

    8 9.09%
  • Fiction - I've never proven a possible het with marker to be a het, or only once or twice, with others that had the markers not proving out.

    14 15.91%
  • Undecided - I've seen it go both ways.

    66 75.00%
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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    speaking of petsmart hets. this male i got for free from petsmart because they couldn't get rid of mites.......go figure. any way looks at his belly. i know its not for certain but i will definately try to prove him out.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...0/dsc00681.jpg
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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    I have two 100% het pieds and both have similar bellies. I do not believe it is always the case, but it seems to be a good indicator. Honestly if all het pieds had the marker, I think hets/piebalds would be considered co-dom rather than a simple recessive!

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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    This post from kingsnake... interesting influence of the het pied trait on cinnimons. These are cinnimons 100% het pieds.

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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    This post from kingsnake... interesting influence of the het pied trait on cinnimons. These are cinnimons 100% het pieds.

    http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1518598,1518598
    That is very interesting, looks like a ringer. I think the super cinny pied would be very cool

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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    My 100% male has the marker.
    personally, you cant go wrong by trying to prove out a marker.

    idk if i would get a snake just because it has a marker. but i do know that if i was choosing between a couple pos hets, my money would be going towards one with a marker...
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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle View Post
    That is very interesting, looks like a ringer. I think the super cinny pied would be very cool
    or a pewter pied!!
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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    With all this talk about het or not...you need to prove each case out...I applaud Justin with his findings.. To those that have normal in apperance females with a marker why are not trying to prove yours out. As many larger breeders do sell lower priced hets to the box stores as normals....Even het to het will produce normal looking babies that could be hets....Dont you love this hobby....

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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    Here is my male pastel that i saved for my dinker project possible het pied and yes he has the markers but came from africa so don't know his parents. He was bred this year to a pastel 100% het pied female so we will see. Pastel pieds would be great
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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by KMS View Post
    With all this talk about het or not...you need to prove each case out...I applaud Justin with his findings.. To those that have normal in apperance females with a marker why are not trying to prove yours out. As many larger breeders do sell lower priced hets to the box stores as normals....Even het to het will produce normal looking babies that could be hets....Dont you love this hobby....
    Right you are, your petstore bp may not be a normal, especially if its a male... and especially if you buy from my local petstore!

    Quote Originally Posted by Repti-Rob View Post
    Here is my male pastel that i saved for my dinker project possible het pied and yes he has the markers but came from africa so don't know his parents. He was bred this year to a pastel 100% het pied female so we will see. Pastel pieds would be great
    Good luck! One thing I've learned is, YOU NEVER KNOW!
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    Re: Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

    Here are some of my females that are hets or possible hets...













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