Don't try this at home

[nevohraalnavnoj]

I think the issue here is that one way or another you are going to need a thermostat, unless you live in some magical place that has constant temperatures all year round. Whether in your house/facility or in the room the snakes are in or on their enclosures (or all of the above) it's pretty much impossible to get away without it.

JonV

[Ginevive]

OP, where art thou?

[naba2002]

Ive been to Eugene Bessettes facility with thousands of snakes in racks and he uses no supplemental heat. The room is climate controlled only. He tries to stray people away from using items such as flexwatt and heat rope and hes be been breeding almost 30 years.

but wouldnt the climate controled room be controled by a thermostat? not a helix or herp but still a thermostat rite? and the OP is sayin none at all? im not sure bout this thread at all, wats the point?

[Mike Cavanaugh]

but wouldnt the climate controled room be controled by a thermostat? not a helix or herp but still a thermostat rite? and the OP is sayin none at all? im not sure bout this thread at all, wats the point?

Exactly. Unless she lives somewhere that stays the same exact temperature... summer and winter... day and night... sun or rain... there is a thermostat.

[FIREball]

but wouldnt the climate controled room be controled by a thermostat? not a helix or herp but still a thermostat rite? and the OP is sayin none at all? im not sure bout this thread at all, wats the point?

If you want to consider the facility being controled by a thermostat by the main HVAC than yes I am sorry. Yes they are controlled by a thermostat. Are they controled by a Helix or Herstat...NO!

[Rapture]

Who says a ball python needs to be at a constant temperature year round or throughout the day at that matter? Why do you think they make night drop cords for the Helix or Herpstat ND (night drop)?

[SatanicIntention]

For me, it's not about constant temperature, it's about having control over a device that has the potential of shorting out and overheating. Overheating to the point of causing great harm to the animal inside the cage it is supposed to be heating, and possible harm to the house the cage is in if a fire decides to start.

My snakes could care less if there are slight fluctuations during the year, the keep on eating and doing what they're doing. Even if there aren't temp fluxes, you're going to have barometric changes and the snakes KNOW what time of year it is. Their internal clock always knows.

That thermostat could mean the life of your animal. It could mean the difference of your tank cracking or the tub melting. It could even mean the difference in saving your home from a potential fire. If that heat pad ever decided to short out or malfunction to the point of overheating, the thermostat it is connected to would turn off all power to it and alert you to the problem.

It's not about fluctuations.. It's about having control over a potential hazard that could cause harm to other people and animals. What's $75 to $100 to ensure that your investments, be it a single Ball Python(I bought a Herpstat 2 to protect my first Ball Python. I don't regret it one bit and she's here almost 5 years later because I took those precautions and kept her safe) or rooms full of 1000+ Ball Pythons worth in excess of a couple million dollars.

I don't care if a room stays perfectly stable year round, or if a heat pad doesn't malfunction after 6 months.. I care about not losing my animals or my house because I didn't want to spend $75 on a Johnson thermostat that could have prevented it.

[Rapture]

Actually one of the things she likes about her set up is that her heating device is not strong enough to overheat her snake, unlike devices that require thermostats. If your thermostat fails, your snake cooks. Her heating device is already running on full power and has not become a danger to her snake.

[SatanicIntention]

And if a storm comes through and causes a power surge? That heat pad could easily overheat.

I don't see how anyone can condone not having any type of control on a heat source. AT LEAST get a dimmer or something and hook it up to a surge protector for your snake's sake. They're a whole $10. VPI uses dimmers that I know of..

We all know that even little 4" flexwatt that is what.. 6watts? can easily overheat and melt.

If she doesn't want to protect her snake, herself and her house, then by all means, go for it!

[Rapture]

In that case couldn't she just keep it on a surge protector? I am sincerely not trying to be difficult, just wondering about that one.