I was not tring to cause a disagreement! But I dont like the idea of puppy mills or snake mills if you will. i don't make them do anything if they want to get out they can just crawl over the side where my wife is waiting with a towel and I always check the water temp. harming them is the last thing I want. As far as breeding them I just wanted to see what they would produce and for me it would be nonprofet for sure. My wife don't to give up anything. Nock on wood we have never had a problem with RI or mites. And I fell so lucky because I have heard of some bad cases of both and I fell sorry for snake and the keeper! We bath them after they eat to make sure they don't have any tagalongs from the rat before they go back in there homes and this is done the next day .They stay in the feeder tank over nite. Sorry I didn't mean to cause conflict. I just wanted to know about palpation