Jen Harrison Split from Big Daddy's Wholesale Thread

[Otter_23]

So if you bought snakes from Wyatt it would stand to conclusion that there is a possibility that your snakes are carriers as well wouldn't it? If just one of these snakes turns out to be a carrier and it was dormant it could be infecting your collection which you wouldn't know about until later. Shouldn't you stop producing and selling your animals until you know for sure what is being dealt with and you can have your animals tested? If I bought an animal and it was discovered later he had a devastating virus I would be very weary of my own animals, but of course that wouldn't fit your agenda would it? Maybe you should follow your own advice since you apparatently have all the answers.

Also about your statement regarding no law about emails and confidentiality are you saying that doctors, lawyers etc... can breach confidentiality if they just email people. Wow who would have thought it was so easy. I saw a show where a guy confessed to a murder to his lawyers but they couldn't say anything about it until he died (I believe he said they could reveal then) so an innocent guy sat in jail for decades until the true murderer died. I wish those lawyers had known they could have just emailed it.

[tncorns]

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=110699

Do some research before picking sides.. LOL!

Thanks, Jasballs. I believe she said she will not sell any animals this year. I know she had some for sale but has recently decided against selling them. I plan to take her word for that. So I guess that is the end of that until it is proven that she has sold a animal.

[Gloryhound]

From his emails - remember I have two of them not just the one that was posted - it is clear that the non-cooperative on is not Dr. Jacobsen. That aside - when the leading specialist on OMPV says he can't find a trace of OMPV in her snakes I would tend to believe him. When he says it's a new virus that is still being researched I would tend to believe him. Jen was the one that said he was aware that these snakes were good to go out into the community - (see Deborah's post about all the communications) one would assume if he gave his ok for them to be released into the community - this would not have been news to him. I'd think you'd be more irate if you'd gotten one of those snakes from Jen and have it wipe out your collection.

We can play he said she said all day long - but - it is more than clear that Jen should not be releasing snakes into the community - if this stops her than all the better. If it wakes some people up to her true character - then all the better.

Yes. Until you can actually put that second letter up her no evidence exists that you have it! I could actually create an e-mail if I wanted to that can look like it came from anyone I want. All I need is the E-mail address! Yes it will include headers and footers. Might take some time, but I can do it. I could forward it to other people for verification. Until the good doctor shows up here and starts posting it is all he said she said and gets no one anywhere!

On a side note if you were actually smart enough to read the sticky at the top of the inquiries/Feedback section it specifies Personal experiences.

We would like to encourage you to research any sellers that you may be thinking about doing business with at the BOI. The BOI (or Board of Inquiry) is a forum already established on another website that deals specfically with vendors in the herp community.

However, we also encourage you to share any PERSONAL positive or negative experiences that you may have had on our Inquiries/Feedback forum.

So what personal dealings have you had with Jen Harrison? If we actually had moderators doing their job the Big Daddy thread and this one would never have gotten as far as they have. For some reason the moderators have determined that the rules do not apply in all cases! Go figure!

[JASBALLS]

Thanks, Jasballs. I believe she said she will not sell any animals this year. I know she had some for sale but has recently decided against selling them. I plan to take her word for that. So I guess that is the end of that until it is proven that she has sold a animal.

What do you think changed her mind to sell them? answer; She got caught with her pants down!

[starmom]

Simmer down there Gloryhound. On your last post you became abrasive to a forum member and dissed the mods. Perhaps you ought to go back to posting on Jenn's forum at the TSK site.
I think it is good to allow prospective snake buyers to learn where danger may lurk- and Jenn was going to sell this year until she was confronted. This would not be a smart move for someone who professes to love her snakes.
Does Tosha have an agenda? I have no idea and I don't care; this is about Jenn's snakes and Jenn's future business and Jenn's integrity as a keeper. People in the herp business succeed or not based on their personal and professional ethics and Jenn knows this and this is why she pulled her ads and contacted the buyers who were going to purchase her snakes (of dubious health).
Gloryhound, I see you are starting up a herp business. You might want to take care to not offend and put off your future professional cohort group.

[EmberBall]

I think the snakes Jen has in her posession should be kept in quarantine for at least a few years. If someone wants to send her donation animals, I say pick a friend of hers, and send anything destined for Jen, to a safehouse for a few years.

I keep seeing the words new virus over and over again. If it is new, how can anyone know how it reacts, and if any snake from her collection, adult or baby, is safe to sell?

I would tell her to clam up for a few years, do not buy or sell anything, if donations come in, keep them at a different location, preferably in a different state.

Three years, come back and see what happens.

By the way, what snakes do you have in your collection now? If it is a bunch of normals and a few morphs, might be easier to take the quick way out and dispose of them???????? It sounds harsh, but the "possiblility" of getting a sick animal is enough to make me stay away from anyone. This thread, as it stands, is a death sentence for your business.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

If we actually had moderators doing their job the Big Daddy thread and this one would never have gotten as far as they have. For some reason the moderators have determined that the rules do not apply in all cases!

Sounds like a complaint to me!

[JASBALLS]

Sounds like a complaint to me!

Agreed! Sounds like a bunch of BullSHRAP to me...

[JASBALLS]

Agreed! Sounds like a bunch of BullSHRAP to me...

Shrap= CRAP! Sorry mispelled it I think?

[starmom]

...If we actually had moderators doing their job the Big Daddy thread and this one would never have gotten as far as they have. For some reason the moderators have determined that the rules do not apply in all cases! Go figure!

Gloryhound: Read TOS (legal version) 3.b. This will explain what the responsibility of the mods are regarding the 'policing' of threads. When you have finished becoming educated, please feel free to apologize for your ignorance.