Yeah I would love to try a furminator but with a lab, I'd like to keep his under coat. There is a reason why its there. He also loves to swim. He sees water and he is gone lol.

The zoom groom takes out a little bit of the under coat, but not like the furminator. Its more of a shedding aid, in taking out what is loose and supposed to come out.

I know what you mean about golden retrievers, their coats are beautiful. We had one for years. She was an angel. We lived on a farm and during the middle of winter, in 2 ft of snow one of our goats had had babies unexpectedly. We didn't know she was pregnant. The babies had rolled out under the fence in the snow and couldn't get back in. Goldie (our retriever) had heard them crying and wandered out there late at night. We found her the next morning curled up next to the barn in a ball with both baby goats squished into her warm belly. She saved their lives. She was so proud of herself for it. When she saw us she was giving us smiles. She was a good dog.
She did a lot of things like that.

Definitely awesome dogs!!