ready to get flamed.

[Mike Cavanaugh]

I am sorry BUT,

currently out of CO2.

I have a stubborn feeder that only takes small live mice. She is still a baby.

She struck at a hopper mouse, then let go of it after a few seconds. the baby mouse I thought was dead, then it started to come to... clearly wounded. I left it in there for about 30 minutes. the snake went back in its hide.

the mouse, clearly woonded was hobbling around the enclosure.

I recently purchased for $3 dollars a Reynalds zip lock bag vacume. I put the poor little mouse in the ziplock bag, and attached the sealer... (If you are not familiar with the sealer, it completely removes all air and creates a vacume seal within about 2 seconds.)

Well, I was surprised with the good results. within litteraly 5 seconds of sealing the bag, the mouse was motionless. (not breathing at all)

So, I must ask. would you consider this cruel? The mouse was dead faster then if the snake itself constricted it. The way I see it, it is kind of like a CO2 chamber, and a snake constriction at once.


I don't know, tell me what you think. I know that when I put my smaller mice in the CO2 chamber it takes a good minute or two to die. this took 5 seconds for the breathing to stop.

Mike

[PythonWallace]

Sounds pretty humane to me. Rodents are discusting anyway.

[Enve]

I'm curious about this as well. I bought a $150 vacuum sealer when I got my first bp thinking I was going to feed f/t......never worked out so now I have a $150 newspaper weight. If it's that quick I would think it "may" be humane.

[_Venom_]

I guess it's okay.
they seem to exchange oxygen pretty fast, so they would go uncounscinence fast.

[ADEE]

((Shrug)) sounds like suffocation to me.... but then again mice go through that when constricted

[Argentra]

I'm curious about this as well. I bought a $150 vacuum sealer when I got my first bp thinking I was going to feed f/t......never worked out so now I have a $150 newspaper weight. If it's that quick I would think it "may" be humane.

You aren't using that? How much would you sell it to me for??? I need one to seal up bags of frozen surplus mice. Pretty Please?

As for the thread topic, it sounds just like constriction, and a lot better than whacking them against a hard surface, so it's as humane as killing mice can get.

[BMorrison]

That's an awesome idea! Not inhumane at all!

[SatanicIntention]

If you ever need to euthanize a few individual mice, even pinks/fuzzies, get a bottle of canned air. It kills them very quickly(they may agonal breathe for a bit, but that's normal) and they do not suffer. I have euthanized my pet rats at home when I can't get them in to see the vet this way. They go very peacefully.

[Beardedragon]

If you ever need to euthanize a few individual mice, even pinks/fuzzies, get a bottle of canned air. It kills them very quickly(they may agonal breathe for a bit, but that's normal) and they do not suffer. I have euthanized my pet rats at home when I can't get them in to see the vet this way. They go very peacefully.

never thought of that... But wouldnt they get high before they die

[littleindiangirl]

I'm not sure about how humane this way is, but it seems effective when one is in a pinch.

The part I like about C02 is where they fall asleep before they stop breathing. I know suffocating is not pleasant, and would prefer to fall asleep before I get smothered.