I am sorry BUT,

currently out of CO2.

I have a stubborn feeder that only takes small live mice. She is still a baby.

She struck at a hopper mouse, then let go of it after a few seconds. the baby mouse I thought was dead, then it started to come to... clearly wounded. I left it in there for about 30 minutes. the snake went back in its hide.

the mouse, clearly woonded was hobbling around the enclosure.

I recently purchased for $3 dollars a Reynalds zip lock bag vacume. I put the poor little mouse in the ziplock bag, and attached the sealer... (If you are not familiar with the sealer, it completely removes all air and creates a vacume seal within about 2 seconds.)

Well, I was surprised with the good results. within litteraly 5 seconds of sealing the bag, the mouse was motionless. (not breathing at all)

So, I must ask. would you consider this cruel? The mouse was dead faster then if the snake itself constricted it. The way I see it, it is kind of like a CO2 chamber, and a snake constriction at once.


I don't know, tell me what you think. I know that when I put my smaller mice in the CO2 chamber it takes a good minute or two to die. this took 5 seconds for the breathing to stop.

Mike