Python Invasion: Everyone PANIC

[Gloryhound]

Yes, global warming is true, but...

I hate to tell everyone this, but global warming has occured before. It occured before the last Ice Age and the one before it and the one before it... Uneducated people are all falling into the Gore trap of believing this is the first time it has happened and it is going to not be the end of the world. People forget all the hype in the 70's about the mini Ice Age we were going through! After an Ice Age global warming takes place. Once the earth reaches a certain point mother nature reacts and draws us back into an Ice Age. During all these cycles some animals die off, others evolve, and some new ones are created. This is the way mother nature handles things. We as humans have the capability of adapting very well. Also we have a nasty habit of trying to stop mother nature from killing off species! We have the ability to take wild animals that are dying off and breeding them in captivity, releasing the young, and repopulate some areas. Yes we as humans are the ones who destroyed these animals natural habitats and/or hunted them to extinction. Sorry that is the way the world goes and for every creature we save what other creatures that may have begun to develop do we wipe out by bringing their preditor or competitor for food back. It is all a nasty circle that we as humans should let mother nature handle instead of us. If we want exotic pets and want to play with genes in a controlled environment then they should stay in captivity. The killer bee (Not the ball Python morph! I mean the real thing.) was the result of an accidental releast of a science project gone wrong or right depending on who you talk to. Also many species we now have her in the US running wild where imported into the country. Take the wild mustang for example. The actual American horse died out back in early BC. The wild mustang we have today were horses brought here by settlers from Europe that accidentally or purposefully were released for various reasons. Do we now hunt down the Wild Mustang and kill them off or take them to zoo's. No they are now a protected animal in Nevada as well as some other states I believe.

As you can tell any driving force that develops behind this will be due to uneducated people who believe they have the right to step on Herpers rights to raise enjoy and study various species of animals in captivity.

[ALEX B.]

Can you please explain for me (in lower case letters) how global warming will make such a dramatic difference? I've seen the maps - utter freaking rubbish.

Me and a buddy were pretty drunk last night and i was showing him the site and made a couple posts. When i got back on today i saw he made a bunch of b.s. posts last night, starting stuff with people in other threads, and all around, just spitting random crap. Just wanted to apologize to everyone if he offended anyone.
Thanks
By the way, i agree with you, global warming is nothing new will not affect us as big as they want us to believe

[cinderbird]

where can we go to tell these people they are utterly insane and ignorant and give them ACCURATE information regarding the keeping of some of these reptiles?

[PhillyBoyInTN]

I'm near the Northeast Corner of TN. Just the other day it was 34 degrees outside..... yeah, balls are gonna run rampant in the wild here

[JoshJP7]

Just a little insight on the global warming for those who believe its not that big of a problem... In 1970 NASA took the first pictures of the northern polar ice cap... in 32years 20-30% of that same ice cap has dissapeared... Yes global warming is a natural occuring event but mind you the time frame from 1 ice age to the next is roughly 10,000years... If you believe that this is just "part of a natural occuring process" your completely ignorant to the fact that the invention of the automobile has speeded up this "naturally occuring process"... Polar caps that usually recede 10-20ft per year are now melting at over 100+ feet per year... It doesnt take a scientist or Al Gore to look at some before and after pictures and realize this is a real issue and we are the cause of it...

As far as global warming and the invasion... Im still trying to make that connection.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

http://www.keepwintercool.org/images...arth_small.jpg

[Freakie_frog]

Here is another idea that was being thrown around by some environmental studies at college when I was there just an interesting take on the ice caps melting. In the 40-70's the world population was "X" number of people now fast forward 30-50 years and then number of people on the planet has increased by "X" amount. Now the amount of pollution that has increased with the number of people. Now the majority of the world fresh water is stored in the ice caps. So it would stand to reason that if nature is so good at balance that with more people and an increase in the amount of polluted fresh water that nature would have to adjust to release more fresh water in to the water cycle to supply the increase in human population and water consumption. Some people think that the ice caps melting is simply natures way of supplying a species population explosion with what it needs.

[JoshJP7]

Also I'm sure everyone knows that ice reflects the suns rays... with less ice on the earth less rays are reflected and more are absorbed... More rays absorbed = higher temps = ice melting faster... Its a snowball effect that will only get worse... Its too late to "stop" the process but that doesnt mean we cant slow it down.

[the bull]

Any thoughts?

What about all the humans that escaped from England 300 years ago!?!?

[Swingline0.0.1]

Yes, global warming is true, but...

I have to give a slight caveat (though I think you had a good point overall). I hesitate to lend any credence to Gore or the carbon credit crowd.

It's been a rough year for them, so I'll be nice... It snowed in Baghdad this year. Most of the icecaps are LARGER than they have been in recent years:

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...ming-snow-job/

The most dangerous aspect of this whole topic are things like the Kyoto Protocol, which would cost us literally billions of dollars for 'future damage caused by carbon emissions.' (Incidentally, it specifically excludes China from paying anything, despite their being the largest producer of 'greenhouse gases' in the world.) So even if the whole thing was legit, why should we foot the bill?

The fact that about 15 minutes of research will show that temperature spikes PRECEDE carbon level spikes (and as Gloryhound said, are just cyclical) should be sufficient, but there is money to be made... Gore personally is now worth over $100 million thanks to his affiliation with 'green' companies.

[Oroborous]

Yes, global warming is true, but...

I hate to tell everyone this, but global warming has occured before. It occured before the last Ice Age and the one before it and the one before it... Uneducated people are all falling into the Gore trap of believing this is the first time it has happened and it is going to not be the end of the world. People forget all the hype in the 70's about the mini Ice Age we were going through! After an Ice Age global warming takes place.

As you can tell any driving force that develops behind this will be due to uneducated people who believe they have the right to step on Herpers rights to raise enjoy and study various species of animals in captivity.

Yes, global warming is indeed true, those who believe otherwise are kidding themselves. But obviously humans are speeding up the process quite a bit. Why this effects the herp culture, I don't know how, except all the energy it takes to keep our cold blooded friends warm
As for the government stepping in on our hobby, I think it's necessary, but only to a point. There are so many unresponsible people acquiring herps that either bought them on impulse or just didn't have any idea what they were getting into. I see burms, sav monitors, and other large potentially dangerous herps sold in pet stores to anyone who has the money to buy em. I think there needs to be thourough background checks on potential buyers, more regulation on larger species especially retics, burms and monitors. Those species require so much, sometimes i think they just shouldn't be pets at all. it just isn't fair to the animals. there's too many neglected animals out there, and stupid people who let them into the wild or let them die or dump them on someone else. it's not right.