When to step in?

[ChrisBowsman]

You can be responsible and simply talk to this person. Where did the ability to communicate go? You can suggest some changes, ask if they feel that they can't care for the snake if they would like you to adopt it, etc. It does not have to be confrontational, think educational. If you try and this person does not care, then you may want to consider other options - but stealing someone's snake is NOT one of them that I'd ever consider or advise anyone to consider.

I agree stealing it is not a good idea, but I don't think talking to the guy would do much good. People who don't care enough to learn how to take care of pets on their own tend to dislike unsolicited advice. Unfortunately, they never go, "Oh boy! You mean I can actually put some work and money into this thing instead of continuing to do nothing?! Hot dog!"

However, because I agree that you SHOULD be able to communicate with people, you have to at least try. That might be enough to get him to come off the snake.... worked on my bro-in-law.

Why dont you just ask him if he wants to sell him? Its win win, he gets cash and you dont get in trouble. He must not care too much!!
Good luck!

^ This is probably the best idea.

[sneakerpro]

The snake is this person's property, whether you like it or not. Taking it without permission is stealing and it's not a good idea to be telling someone to steal something in the public forum. If this continues, the thread will be locked for promoting an illegal activity.

You can be responsible and simply talk to this person. Where did the ability to communicate go? You can suggest some changes, ask if they feel that they can't care for the snake if they would like you to adopt it, etc. It does not have to be confrontational, think educational. If you try and this person does not care, then you may want to consider other options - but stealing someone's snake is NOT one of them that I'd ever consider or advise anyone to consider.

Thank you. I needed the maturity-check!

I guess I got a little caught up in the "save-the-day" mindset. I'll have a long informative conversation with my friend, and hopefully his roommate the snake owner as well. Hopefully I can get through to them, or pick up an addition to the family for a reasonable price! It's just very frustrating to see it when I'm there...

[ChrisBowsman]

Does the guy drink? If so, try offering him a bottle of liquor or something for the snake. Back in my day of controlled substance abuse, I stumbled upon some SWEET deals along those lines.

[sneakerpro]

I like where you're head's at

However, there is a new developement in this case!

I just got off the phone with my friend, and he has informed that the snake is gone! The owner of the snake has taken it, most likely to stay with him at his girlfriend's apt. Now I have no control over the snake at all! I suppose I could put feelers out to see if he would still be interested in selling it, but I feel like my opportunity to help this snake may be slipping away.

[frankykeno]

Thank you. I needed the maturity-check!

I guess I got a little caught up in the "save-the-day" mindset. I'll have a long informative conversation with my friend, and hopefully his roommate the snake owner as well. Hopefully I can get through to them, or pick up an addition to the family for a reasonable price! It's just very frustrating to see it when I'm there...

You're welcome. I know the frustration of having someone not caring for an animal and you want to just do something but getting yourself arrested or making yourself an enemy isn't helping anybody especially not this snake.

When we rescued the big boa a few years back we worked for literally weeks with the previous owner, going over to her house to feed it for her (she got a 5 foot boa...THEN decides she's afraid of rats...yes even frozen dead rats! arrrrgh!), trying to make suggestions for care, etc. Every time we were there we mentioned that we would take the snake and find it a home if she was overwhelmed (yes and it was very hard to not say...."look you stupid twit! do you need to kill this snake to realize how absolutely ignorant you are!"). Eventually she came to realize that she was just not that "into" snakes and handed the boa over to us. By that time the poor thing had the beginnings of a nasty belly and was so stressed it had gone pretty much an all over muddy black color, so bad you could not tell it's saddle markings anymore.

Rauri aka Sonja is now in her wonderful forever home. It was worth every minute of putting up with that very stupid woman because it meant that snake got out alive. Had I told her what I really thought of her, she'd have refused to listen to Mike and I and eventually let us take the snake. I don't know what would have been that boa's fate if we hadn't bite our tongues and dealt with the idiot owner.

Oh and to further reiterate how stupid and foolish that girl was, she would drive around town, all the windows of her vehicle open and that big snake loose in the car. Apparently "the snake loves to go cruising".....lordy! I do like my husband's idea that there should be a law that an owner must have at least 2 working brains cells MORE than the animal they buy.

[sneakerpro]

she would drive around town, all the windows of her vehicle open and that big snake loose in the car. Apparently "the snake loves to go cruising".....

Gee, I had never even THOUGHT about that.. sounds like fun!

[missi182]

The snake is this person's property, whether you like it or not. Taking it without permission is stealing and it's not a good idea to be telling someone to steal something in the public forum. If this continues, the thread will be locked for promoting an illegal activity.

You can be responsible and simply talk to this person. Where did the ability to communicate go? You can suggest some changes, ask if they feel that they can't care for the snake if they would like you to adopt it, etc. It does not have to be confrontational, think educational. If you try and this person does not care, then you may want to consider other options - but stealing someone's snake is NOT one of them that I'd ever consider or advise anyone to consider.

You are 100% right even if it is hard to wait out rescuing a bp the proper way rather than doing something illegal. Also, good for you sneakerpro to do the right thing.

[frankykeno]

Btw, little word to the wise in case this person does release the snake to you. Mike and I always try to get something in writing when we rescue/adopt a snake. We don't want the owner coming back on us at some point, after we've spent time and money sorting out the snake and trying to reclaim it.

[sneakerpro]

Btw, little word to the wise in case this person does release the snake to you. Mike and I always try to get something in writing when we rescue/adopt a snake. We don't want the owner coming back on us at some point, after we've spent time and money sorting out the snake and trying to reclaim it.

That is a great point, and one I would have never thought of! Thanks for the advice.

[chetman7]

call the aspca!!! lol

then after they take them away from him, adopt it