I had said they were junk solely on the fact of the horror stories I hear about em crapping out.

Either shutting all the way down. Or sticking in the on position and cooking a snake. Worst case scenario, a whole collection.

No I don't use them, nor have I, I should have said that. But that's the reason I don't.

I look at it as there's a reason they're so cheap. They're made cheap. And you get what you pay for.