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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
males are cheap the females are what are hard to get & way more expensive!! they gave me my male het to close the deal.If I get a albino I won't need him, but the most I could maybe get for him is $75.66% hets are real cheap but they have to be proved out also. matter a fact they all need to be proved out you better buy friom a good reputabled breeders w/documentation,but they still have to prove out.
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
Hey on newenglandreptile.com I found a Male Het Orange Ghost Possible Het Frosted Ghost for 100 is that good?
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
Is ghost what your wanting to work with if so and that price is in your budget I'd say go for it. NERD has some of if not the best animals out.
When you've got 10,000 people trying to do the same thing, why would you want to be number 10,001? ~ Mark Cuban "for the discerning collector"
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
Het Males Don't Mean Nothing Unless Your Female Is Het.too.get Some Albino Hets & Work On Them Rewards Will Be Great If They Prove Out.
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
 Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
Is ghost what your wanting to work with if so and that price is in your budget I'd say go for it. NERD has some of if not the best animals out.
To bad there customer service sucks.
~Noel Bishop
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
 Originally Posted by WellyBelly
To bad there customer service sucks.
I really wanted to get my pastel from NERD but I called twice and left messages and sent them two emails and I got no answers for any of my 4 attempts. I hope that I can get in contact with them at some point in the future, because I want to get one of their beautiful blood pythons.
I ended up getting my pastel from J&J and she's not the most drop dead beautiful snake in the world, but she's got nice yellow on her sides and pretty markings. I actually liked her better because I didn't want a fully yellow lemon one (just a personal preference).
The lady I talked to at J&J was completely nice and sat on the phone with me for about 20 minutes answering all my questions. They didn't try to rip me off on shipping, either, and the actual snake was priced right (in my opinion).
From what I understand, a Pastel is a great morph to start out with because it's a co-dominant trait, so if you get a normal ball to mate with your pastel your chances are 50% of the clutch being pastels and the others being normal.
Just keep in mind if you get a male 100% het for albino for $100, you're going to have to spend twice or more of that to get a female 100% het albino in order to have a chance at actually getting any albinos who show the trait in the way that they look. If they're less than 100% then they have a chance of not having the albino trait at all.
I'm hoping to get a pastel male to breed to my female while I'm in vet school for some extra cash
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
 Originally Posted by cutemouse
I really wanted to get my pastel from NERD but I called twice and left messages and sent them two emails and I got no answers for any of my 4 attempts. I hope that I can get in contact with them at some point in the future, because I want to get one of their beautiful blood pythons.
I ended up getting my pastel from J&J and she's not the most drop dead beautiful snake in the world, but she's got nice yellow on her sides and pretty markings. I actually liked her better because I didn't want a fully yellow lemon one (just a personal preference).
The lady I talked to at J&J was completely nice and sat on the phone with me for about 20 minutes answering all my questions. They didn't try to rip me off on shipping, either, and the actual snake was priced right (in my opinion).
From what I understand, a Pastel is a great morph to start out with because it's a co-dominant trait, so if you get a normal ball to mate with your pastel your chances are 50% of the clutch being pastels and the others being normal.
Just keep in mind if you get a male 100% het for albino for $100, you're going to have to spend twice or more of that to get a female 100% het albino in order to have a chance at actually getting any albinos who show the trait in the way that they look. If they're less than 100% then they have a chance of not having the albino trait at all.
I'm hoping to get a pastel male to breed to my female while I'm in vet school for some extra cash 
Same story here. I just took my money elsewhere.
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
Chris,
No disrespect intended, Id just do these things if i were you.
1. Read up on the different morphs, the genetics, ext. NERD has some good Articles on genetics, and click on photo gallery, then ball pythons and a morph page comes up. Pick your favorite, Make a list, The genetics, and what it would take time wise and financially to make it. Rate your favorite and down, then factor in price.
2. Check classifieds, its a great place to find a variety of different price and quality animals, then read the breeder, go to there site, and see if it all seems good.
3. If you like some animals, Go to Faunaclassifieds.com , Make a account, Go to the Board of Inquiery and on the right hand side you will see a search forum thing that is only there if you register and are logged in, Google the breeders name, Company name, website ext. See the reviews. Factor in good verus bad, and if there are a few bads, go to the next guy.
4. Make sure you are ready, you have a local market to sell the snakes unless you want to get into shipping. I dont know how old you are, But if younger (going off your Intro post about Grandpa's snake), Shipping and dealing online may not be a great option, and usually there is not large local markets for morphs.
There are enough ball python breeders where there should be something you like for the price you want it for (as long as your range is in market value).
My suggestion is get one, Maybe a morph you want, Maybe a male pastel, or something else, Make sure you get your care down pat, You research a ton, and in a few months after getting good with them, Get a female, Then when both are older, and larger, (find appropriate breeding weights online), breed them. Have baby racks set up. And your good.
I dont mean to be rude, Just i wouldnt jump into breeding right away if you are not sure on morphs and what each means. Take your time, theres no rush into breeding, Its probably alot harder then it seems, and selling animals may take some time too. So make sure your ready, and then your good.
Ben
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Re: Good Breeding Pair for a Noob
 Originally Posted by Crazydude
Chris,
No disrespect intended, Id just do these things if i were you.
1. Read up on the different morphs, the genetics, ext. NERD has some good Articles on genetics, and click on photo gallery, then ball pythons and a morph page comes up. Pick your favorite, Make a list, The genetics, and what it would take time wise and financially to make it. Rate your favorite and down, then factor in price.
2. Check classifieds, its a great place to find a variety of different price and quality animals, then read the breeder, go to there site, and see if it all seems good.
3. If you like some animals, Go to Faunaclassifieds.com , Make a account, Go to the Board of Inquiery and on the right hand side you will see a search forum thing that is only there if you register and are logged in, Google the breeders name, Company name, website ext. See the reviews. Factor in good verus bad, and if there are a few bads, go to the next guy.
There are enough ball python breeders where there should be something you like for the price you want it for (as long as your range is in market value).
Also, just currious, Do you currently own Ball pythons? If not, My suggestion is get one, Maybe a morph you want, Maybe a male pastel, or something else, Make sure you get your care down pat, You research a ton, and in a few months after getting good with them, Get a female, Then when both are older, and larger, (find appropriate breeding weights online), breed them. Have baby racks set up. And your good.
I dont mean to be rude, Just i wouldnt jump into breeding right away if you are not sure on morphs and what each means. Take your time, theres no rush into breeding, Its probably alot harder then it seems, and selling animals may take some time too. So make sure your ready, and then your good.
Ben
awesome advice, you took the words right outta my mouth!
~Alli

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