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    Re: Boa question???

    In my years I have purchased dozens of snakes at shows and have NEVER picked up mites. I honestly think saying that shows are a way to "pick up mites" is flat out irresponsible and reckless behavior. Most breeders that do shows are top notch and willing to invest significant money to do so. They value their animals and really have a huge interest in doing things the right way sure as hell a lot more then typical pet shops (most of whom are negligent beyond words).

    Again I find the statement that shows are a "good way to pick up mites" to be both RECKLESS and IRRESPONSIBLE and if I were a breeder that sold at shows would consider it "liable" (look that up in a legal dictionary).

    On the size of enclosure issue a 30 gal is fine for a young boa and will probably be fine for 18 months - 24 months depending on feeding schedules and sub species.
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    Re: Boa question???

    i've picked up snakes with mites at a show, so I don't know how you consider me saying that reckless and irresponsible. Clearly you're not considering the importers that are at shows.

    and for the record Jack, it's libel.
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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Orner View Post
    If you want eddyhead, you can come and see me at the show. I can introduce you to 95% of the vendors there. Even if I do not have something you like I am sure I can help you choose a healthy animal at the show. That is not a problem at all. Just remember if you do not see something you like there is no reason to buy. The show is monthly and baby season is right around the corner lol.
    Wow, Sounds like an off I'D never refuse!

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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Orner View Post
    Wes, Thanks bro!

    Like said look at the animal before purchase.

    I personally use Provent a Mite on all displays and cloth I put down on my table. I can not even have Tarantulas on my table unless I bring a clean table cloth and use it on a seperate table lol. I also use Black Knight II now.

    If you want eddyhead, you can come and see me at the show. I can introduce you to 95% of the vendors there. Even if I do not have something you like I am sure I can help you choose a healthy animal at the show. That is not a problem at all. Just remember if you do not see something you like there is no reason to buy. The show is monthly and baby season is right around the corner lol.

    Thanks again Wes!!!
    hey Gary i pm on your fourm TRR, and you responded. Thank you for the reassurance about the show, and i might take you up on the offer of introducing me, or at least pointing out some good breeders to me.

    My name is Zack, and i look forward to seeing you shortly (of course after my spring break in Panama City Beach ). and i would like to think everyone for helping me with my questions on here, you all have been very helpful
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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by jjspirko View Post
    In my years I have purchased dozens of snakes at shows and have NEVER picked up mites. I honestly think saying that shows are a way to "pick up mites" is flat out irresponsible and reckless behavior. Most breeders that do shows are top notch and willing to invest significant money to do so. They value their animals and really have a huge interest in doing things the right way sure as hell a lot more then typical pet shops (most of whom are negligent beyond words).

    Again I find the statement that shows are a "good way to pick up mites" to be both RECKLESS and IRRESPONSIBLE and if I were a breeder that sold at shows would consider it "liable" (look that up in a legal dictionary).

    On the size of enclosure issue a 30 gal is fine for a young boa and will probably be fine for 18 months - 24 months depending on feeding schedules and sub species.
    Dude, Shows are one of the worst places to pick up mites! Get a Clue!!!

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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    Dude, Shows are one of the worst places to pick up mites! Get a Clue!!!
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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by patthesnakeman View Post
    Give it up my friend, some people will never learn. Better not waste your breath on a creature that wants no air.

    Sounds like a modern version of "do not cast your pearls among swine", wise words Pat but I am sorry I hate statements that DAMAGE the reputations of breeders that work hard. qiksilver's statement of

    "i've picked up snakes with mites at a show, so I don't know how you consider me saying that reckless and irresponsible."

    is about as valid as a person saying that

    "i've picked up herpes on a date, so I don't know how you consider me saying that dates are a great way to get VD is reckless and irresponsible".

    It just plain pi$$es me of for a person to damage the business of professionals that work very hard to do a good job and take great care of their animals as MOST breeders that exhibit at shows do.
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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by jjspirko View Post
    Sounds like a modern version of "do not cast your pearls among swine", wise words Pat but I am sorry I hate statements that DAMAGE the reputations of breeders that work hard. qiksilver's statement of

    "i've picked up snakes with mites at a show, so I don't know how you consider me saying that reckless and irresponsible."

    is about as valid as a person saying that

    "i've picked up herpes on a date, so I don't know how you consider me saying that dates are a great way to get VD is reckless and irresponsible".

    It just plain pi$$es me of for a person to damage the business of professionals that work very hard to do a good job and take great care of their animals as MOST breeders that exhibit at shows do.
    You need to get out more often Bro. Shows aint what they used to be.. Hell, Even Flippers set up now a days!

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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    You need to get out more often Bro. Shows aint what they used to be.. Hell, Even Flippers set up now a days!
    See this is the crap I am talking about watch me do the same thing to your statement as qiksilver's changing very few words

    "You need to get out more often Bro. Dates aint what they used to be.. Hell, Even "nice boys/girls" can be dangerous nowadays"

    Words have power you need to be careful of how you generalize things,
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    Re: Boa question???

    Quote Originally Posted by jjspirko View Post
    See this is the crap I am talking about watch me do the same thing to your statement as qiksilver's changing very few words

    "You need to get out more often Bro. Dates aint what they used to be.. Hell, Even "nice boys/girls" can be dangerous nowadays"

    Words have power you need to be careful of how you generalize things,
    Why Change what I said? I stand behind it 100% Mites!! Are at Shows! And so is IBD!!

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