Quote Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
I'm sorry. Dogs and cats on a vegetarian diet is just cruel. While a dog can survive on a vegetarian diet doesn't mean its the best thing for them and those who feed their dogs a vegetarian diet are forcing their beliefs on an animal that needs to be eating meat. I am vegetarian myself but ANY animal in this house that eats meat, gets meat. I even have to cut up bloody pieces of meat for my ferret because I know thats the best thing for her. And as far as cats on a vegetarian diet, that is cruel, plain and simple. That's like feeding a ferret corn on the cob for the rest of its life.

As for snakes and live feeding, several of ours get live. Some get f/t. It all depends on who wants what. While I am against animal abuse, my snakes eating a live mouse is natural and therefore I'm not out to force my snake to eat a carrot. And I'm so tired of people going "Oh, poor defenseless mouse. I can't believe you are going to let your snake eat that cute thing." I really just want to shout "Well at least the mouse won't suffer very long. That steak you just bought for dinner. Yea, that cow was tortured while it grew up, yanked from its mother at a young age, fed a horrible diet, was injected with hormones and antibiotics, cramped into horrible living conditions while it grew up, crowded onto a nasty truck, carted to a slaughterhouse where it received a bolt through its head (but sometimes they missed) and then strung up by its hindleg, had its throat slit but sometimes that didn't work so well and the cow was there, hanging by its hoof, bleeding to death for you to have your steak." I think that would make them shut up long enough for me to buy my feeders and go.

(sorry for the long rant about the production of beef. I just can't stand how people go on and on about how much a mouse suffers at the mercy of my steak, yet they go home and have no second thoughts about that steak they are eating. It just really gets my blood boiling.)
No real argument from me here, but just wanted to say.. Not all beef is put in horrible conditions before it's slaughtered. Where I live (North Texas) there's beef cattle all over the place, and most of them are in large fields and grow up with their parents. They are still taken, sold and slaughtered, but the majority of them don't suffer until the very end.

I'm not standing up for these fools, and I've even mentioned the beef thing, but just wanted to clear the air, that's not how all beef cattle is kept.