Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
Mike,

I'm not sure where you said we preach not to get imported animals. Some of my most prized snakes are captive hatched animals who were imported as babies.

I'm not sure where you infer that this adult female was a recent import? I don't recall either Josh or Alan having stated that.

Also, to my knowledge, J&J doesn't breed their own animals, they are distributors, not breeders.

ANY time I purchase an animal, it's up to me as a responsible owner to ask questions before the purchase. And I also would NOT start breeding a new to my collection breedable weight animal until they exited quarantine.

I know these came from the same source, but I like to get my animals settled, get fecal tests done, get them eating well for me.

I believe from what I've read that there's equal culpability on both sides. Josh should have divulged that this was a new animal with no known back ground, but Alan should have probably asked more about the history of the animal. I also would never have put another male with a female that's already had an explosive bowel movement without first getting a clean fecal test on her.

Alan is learning, unfortunately the hard way, just how important it is, especially with the dollars he spent, to ask a lot of questions, and as Sean Bradley likes to say "examine the snake, not the deal". In his excitement to breed this year, he didn't ask the important questions, or take the appropriate action any time you bring in new animals.

J&J has worked out a resolution that Alan is happy with. People make mistakes, and both parties made mistakes. It's how you handle it and learn from it that is the true measure of the type of person you are. I believe that they both have learned, and I see no reason why I wouldn't purchase from J&J if they had an animal that I liked (and I really like the blurry they have up, actually) - but I'd also query him on their back ground and quarantine and get fecal tests done.

I don't see any evidence of them being a bad guy, just someone who probably should have communicated with an eager buyer a little bit better. If 1/2 the vet costs is amenable to Alan, I don't see why any of us should be outraged about the agreement they came to.
Robin.. How many other people were sent snakes from josh in the last 2 months? I'd be outraged if it was more then the 7-9 snakes alan got..