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    well done for respectivly supporting and standing behind what you do. I read the first page and just wanted to comment, if they are considered a pest or nuisance i have no problem with it. IMO its the same as deer hunting or hog hunting... only this is serving more of a purpose.

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    Ok that didnt come out right.. hog-dogging is at least controlling the population of these distructive hogs. As for deer hunting, I couldnt do it however, I know that animals population needs to be controlled and as long as your not killing the deer just to have a head on your wall (more for eating the meat of a deer instead of just "sport" of getting an 8 point buck) then it can be more easily validated but certainly not on the same level as hogdogging, just wanted to clear that up a little bit

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    Ashley, to clarify:
    Hog-dogging is a sport in which a hog is released into a pen, and then dogs are set on it. It does not control the population, except in so far as wild hogs are captured for use in the sport.
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    To tell you the truth i had no idea what that was... I thought it showed two dogs kissing Never mind i guess...
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    I'll be waiting on those links etc. I'd actually really like a bit more information, as I feel education is key everywhere. So far everything I've found is mostly about baying and in response to media coverage.

    The idea of using the sport as training for the actual hunting, and to solve the many problems with rampant feral pigs, just seems to make sense to me and the most practical way to train for practical uses. Wasn't this historically where the sport orginated? (Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this orginate because farmers would allow their hogs to go 'feral' so they could fatten themselves up, and then use the dogs to round them up at the end of the season?).
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    I personally have never seen or heard of a competion where multiple dogs were used on one hog. That is not acceptable in any way. My use of the word sport and that hog catching is a sport is in direct reference to the training of the dogs and the sport of hunting hogs with dogs.

    The media is famous for misrepresenation and just plain wrong/incorrect information. Hog catching has been made out to be a brutal sport and I will say it can seem that way and is being banned as a sport while the hunting is still allowed. My point is for the hunting as the sport and the goal. It is legitimate in that it is necessary for the dogs to be trained for the hunting to be safe and effective.

    The competition I went to a hog was used only once, and the whole endeavor lasted about 20-45 seconds and I never saw a single hog with an injury or blood. The dogs require training, and the competition atmosphere was originally used for training purposes and to title the dogs. The banning of the sport, the competition as it became and the abuse of the animals while calling it hog catching, I am fine with, it is the use of the hogs for training purposes and the use of the dogs in actual hunts that affects me. I consider hog hunting a sport, not a hog in a pen and multiple dogs or a hog in a pen to be a sport. That is training, regulation, rules, that isn't sport.

    I've been talking about the use of hogs for training and for hunting - not for penning a dog with a boar and letting them have at.

    I will modify my avatar, though that picture is an actual hunt and not a penned match. Those dogs are actually the ancestors/bloodline of a pup I am getting this year - that is why I chose the picture. I don't want to seem to be supporting the sport of penning a hog and a dog. I found a picture I like better anyways

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    "What do you think of the new one?"

    Looks like one of my two legged hogs




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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogBalls View Post
    I personally have never seen or heard of a competion where multiple dogs were used on one hog. That is not acceptable in any way.
    Multiple dogs in one ring appear in the following links.
    I'm hardly an afficionado of the sport, but it didn't take long to find the pics and references.

    An article on Uncle Earl's, which seems to be referenced as the most formal and well-recognized competition:
    http://www.bltcatahoulas.com/Uncle%2...%20Article.htm

    Description from a breeder's website:
    Uncle Earl's Hog Dog Trials **** March 21-25, 2007
    Winnfield, Louisiana
    Nations largest gathering of bay dog enthusiasts competing with superior bay dogs!!

    Results from Uncle Earls:
    http://www.bayedsolid.com/uncle_earls.htm
    Categories clearly listed are "One dog" and "Two dog", for every year from '99 to '07.

    Two pictures show 2 and 3 dogs with one hog.
    http://www.bayedsolid.com/winnfield_1999_winners.htm

    Perhaps you've never heard of Uncle Earl's? It's only been a big media story for like the last four years....


    Here's another. Check out the trial photos.
    http://www.baydog.com/photos.htm
    Pages 1, 2, 3, 4, & 6 (out of 7 total) show multiple dogs on one hog.

    The NALC, arguably the most reputable registry of the Catahoula breed, runs 2-dog bay trials multiple times a year.
    http://www.jcrosscatahoulas.com/awards.html

    I'm sorry, but either you're not as big into the sport as you claim, or your quoted statement above is not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Ashley, to clarify:
    Hog-dogging is a sport in which a hog is released into a pen, and then dogs are set on it. It does not control the population, except in so far as wild hogs are captured for use in the sport.
    Are you buy chance a vegitarian? And have you seen a bull fight before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stangs13 View Post
    Are you buy chance a vegitarian? And have you seen a bull fight before?
    What does this have to do with my above definition?
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