flood, I am glad you did not take offence.. I was not trying to insult your intelligence, it was just my poor attempt at humor. I wasn't talking about sloshing around in the water bowl. I was talking about urination! snake pees on the astro turf, astroturf gets wet, seeps through, heat mat gets wet... thats why i reffered to peeing on the iron. get it? LOL. sorry dude, I will stick to my day job.