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    Re: Someone explain the Ultramel for me

    Quote Originally Posted by tncorns View Post
    Ok, so a ultra to a ultra will throw a mix of ultra and amels, I plan to breed my female ultra to a sunglow motley or a butter motley which are both types of amels. Will this offset the out come.
    If you breed an ultra to an ultra, then you will get ultras. I believe you said yours was an ultramel. In that case, breeding an ultramel to a sunglow motley will give ultramels and amels both het for motley. Or breeding to a butter motley will give amels and ultramels het for motley and caramel.

    I will most defnite mark the blizzard project as king hybrids. I wouldn't want to get any surprises, so I wouldn't drop any on others. So if I keep this strain going and keep breeding back to pure blizzards will I ever get pure corns again or will they always have some king in them. I plan to purchase a blizzard male at one of the many shows this year in Fl. I know its not liked by most but I really enjoy my jungle and plan to keep producing them. You know in the same since I didn't want to sell someone a snake calling it a jungle and it turns snow white as adult. So I guess what I will do is call the all white ones hybrids and the ones showing the color Jungles. Thanks for answering both questions for me.
    Even if you kept breeding them to a pure corn, they are still technically hybrids. Now if after several generations, you could probably say they've been out-crossed enough that they're as pure as any other corn. But if you're set on breeding pure corns, then I would just buy another that is pure.

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    Re: Someone explain the Ultramel for me

    A hybrid is NEVER able to be pure anything. Even if you breed it 100 generations there is still two species in the background of the animal.

    I've been producing jungle corns for many years and get a wide variety of colours and patterns but always sell them as jungles no matter how pure they look and some of them could pass as corns or kings, depending on pattern.
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    Re: Someone explain the Ultramel for me

    Thanks for the answers from both of you. That helps out alot. I have looked over the corn section of this forum and not seeing alot new topics everyday. Is there alot of corn snake people on this forum or is there another hot place for corns

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    Re: Someone explain the Ultramel for me

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    A hybrid is NEVER able to be pure anything. Even if you breed it 100 generations there is still two species in the background of the animal.
    I agree. But then the question comes in is how pure is any corn? They readily breed with kistache, emoryi, etc in the wild. So it's questionable if there are any pure corns as I imagine that many have some degree of a different species in them...

    But, I agree that if you knowingly breed something that you know to not be pure, then it should be labeled a hybrid, regardless of how many generations its been out crossed its still not pure.

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    Re: Someone explain the Ultramel for me

    I think it's pretty safe to assume that corns are not 100% "pure". They do readily cross breed, and it's pretty accepted that they are not all pure as some people believe.

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