well its good to start with a dwaf but these can get up to 12 ft average an some maybe 14 ft depending male or female . I think you should go to another fourm and talk to people their about these snakes this fourm is a little different. Im getting my retic in a couple of months a burm. Now retics grow really fast but dwafs a little slower and super dwaf really slow.soo look up bob clark he sells dwafs