I understand what the OP is saying. The entire reason we did not get ASF to breed was based solely on the general consensus of this and other sites that they do not make good pets and don't socialize with humans well. I wanted feeders, but I also wanted to be able to handle the rats, and even keep them as pets. I'm glad we went with normal domestic rats, but if I didn't do any research on the ASF, I would have bought them, and probably been upset with the choice I made. Happy with the feeders, but would not have liked the attitude of the ASF.

Of course, maybe it would have turned out differently and I would have loved them. But, until I get some, I will not know.