ok well i dont have any pics at this moment and my camera is not here right now, go figure. all my thermometer probes are taped down to the bottom of the tubs at 3 1/2 inches from the back of the tub dead center. the tubs are raised just under id say an 1/8" . right now i have my thermostat probe taped so no free air can get to it directly on the flex-watt. and the blood was on the substrate and the records do not show a recent shed. i just got him today from adam.