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Re: ?substrate?
 Originally Posted by Classicrocker42o
It currently has pebbles as the substrate, and I've never seen it listed as a substrate on a few sites.
That is probably because it isn't a typical subtrate used for ball pythons.
 Originally Posted by Classicrocker42o
Also I was wondering about a heat rock that my dad had bought a long time ago, and paid a decent amount for it.
NO NO NO NO!

 Originally Posted by Classicrocker42o
I know...Heat rocks can burn a snake..
That says it all.
Why would you even consider risking it???
 Originally Posted by Classicrocker42o
I've held it in my hand for a long period of time seeing if it would start to fell hotter, but it doesn't. I don't see how it could harm my snake in any way.
FYI....what is "warm" for you is probably too hot...for your bp.
 Originally Posted by JoshJP7
Just make sure your snake never eats one... .
Good luck with that.

It would almost be inevitable that it would ingest some rocks while eating at some point.
 Originally Posted by JoshJP7
A heat rock serves no real purpose for a snake.
Exactly.

 Originally Posted by Ringo
they would be a complete pain to clean and disinfect. The other being Im not sure how well they would transfer heat. I dont think it is really a question of whether they would harm the snake or not. Its more of would they really provide the proper environmental conditions for the snake. .
Great points.
 Originally Posted by AT6CL
I'm no pro, but IMO that setup would be fine for something like a garter snake. BPs however, are much more "picky" about their environment. I doubt that you could, in a glass tank, get your temp and humidity levels up to where they need to be using pebbles, gravel, etc. In glass tanks, you'll probably have the best luck with cypress mulch or shredded cocnut bark (eco-earth, bed-a-beast, etc.)
As far as the heat rock...NO. DO NOT use it.
good post.

I have also used newsprint as a subtrate in a glass viv. It does work but you have to get your temps and humidity right. And if you "mist"...you can't soak the paper.
I had no problem with the temp...just humidity. I just used a humid hide and it was fine.
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